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Okay we can wait
He can’t regenerate from Informational from what I see plus there’s regen neg anyway
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Demigra vs Saber
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He can’t regenerate from Informational from what I see plus there’s regen neg anyway
Vietthai96
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His EE isn't thought-based and it certainly not passive, and we don't even know anyway, because before he can EE future warior, he get his ass folded hard. While Saber plot hax is thought-based so Saber is faster than Demigra,, if Saber pull out the offensive effect of his plot hax, Demigra lose
Time Power CM1 is layer, and is his precog passive or thought-based??
Vietthai96
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No, information and conceptual is incomparable, and CM isn't > Info unless the verse specific so, also regen from CM do not cover other regen type, if you don't have feat regen from other type of erasure then you not gonna regen from said erasure, such as regen from CM EE do do make you regen from plot EE or Info 2 EE, this is the standard
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He doesn't need EE, he will set a rule with plot manipulation that anything Demigra does is useless, Touma will only kill if necessary which is not the case here, what remains to be defined is whether what Touma considers a victory is considered a victory for the Wiki.
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His omniscience is passive and his precog is thought-based.
Vietthai96
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Yeah, it is decided that omniscience will not give anything in a vsmatch. So let me guess, everything from this guy is thought-based??
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It depends, he has some passives but they are not relevant to this battle.
Would this work in battle? He can access it whenever he wants.
noninho
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Holy ****.
Nope. He just failed to describe this 100% properly on this sentence (not that I know how to), but it has been said that he starts with that
Yeah, if this is under his precog, Analytical Prediction or anything of the sort, that is.
Think imma vote saber FRA, if that's possible now
Vietthai96
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Well, if most of his hax is just thought-based including plot hax, i vote for stomp, Demigra can EE Saber, but he can't pull it out no matter what, he has no wincon
speedster352
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But how would precog work on someone with type 4 acusality and resistance to precog?
Vietthai96
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if i'm not wrong, his precog is plot-based precog, similar to Arale, Aca4 do not give resistance to that shit by default
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That he starts with what? Plot EE? I know you guys are saying he starts with Plot Manipulation but what does he do with it? That’s the important part as creating rules don’t really matter either since he has a resistance to Law Manip.
Btw are you guys arguing Precog/AP via the Akashic Records which contain all history from the past to the future. That wouldn’t matter since Demigra is not in the flow of history and has acausality type 4 due to being a demon
It looks like it’s history based precog since that’s what was mentioned
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i mean at least we know that because of SBA, saber is going to use plot hax in way that it gives him the win
so thats a start
Vietthai96
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It isn't passive either, the guy is dumb as ****, not all Dark Ki user are passive. Anyway XV Demigra is the dumbest villain in the game......
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Okay so what are all the in character things he’s done with plot manipulation? Since I’m looking at his profile and I don’t really see the ic ways he uses it. Also I don’t really see the Plot EE listed on the profile.
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Wonder Guardian Saber, the one we’re using, literally only has one showing and it’s him using plot Hax. Everything in Saber revolves around stories, Touma used his WG powers to make a new story to recreate his universe and the Wonder World after both were destroyed on the conceptual level
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thats why we shouldn't use the mf in vs matches coz theres 1 appearance of him and thats him using plot hax
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Yeah dude has 5 minutes of screen time….max
Vietthai96
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Wtf, lol, lmao.
Fezzih_007
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Just use his other Key.
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He’d get stomp against Demigra‘s haxes. EoS Saber doesn’t actually have good enough abilities to go up against conceptual info EE.
This is basically, “Demigra stomps EoS Touma. Guardian Touma stomps Demigra”
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Hm that’s unfortunate
What abilities does Guardian Touma have? Since if I can’t make a fair match up I’ll probably see if there’s a possibility of using a different character.
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Guardian Touma is the one we’re using, the thought based plot Hax one
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Oh what does he usually do with his plot hax ic since when I checked his profile it seemed like he just recreated something on a plot and conceptual level and I don’t really see any of the Ic ways he uses plot manip on his profile or plot ee
Since that’ll determine the outcome of the fight
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gimme a sec to response, busy at the moment.
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Okay, I’m back.
So, basically, Touma doesn’t have anything other than plot Hax in this form. Everything in Saber has its own story, ranging from individual people to concepts as a whole. As the Wonder Guardian, Touma’s role is to make, assign, and create stories and concepts for the world.
In character, the way he’d interact with others would be through his rewriting their story however they want to.
So, basically, Touma doesn’t have anything other than plot Hax in this form. Everything in Saber has its own story, ranging from individual people to concepts as a whole. As the Wonder Guardian, Touma’s role is to make, assign, and create stories and concepts for the world.
In character, the way he’d interact with others would be through his rewriting their story however they want to.
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