Deltarune: Chapter 5 (SPOILER!!) Discussion Thread

[Randomuser3412]

Erm actually Miss Mizzle's storm is like, Low 7-B

But yeah I do think most feats that aren't like, a big boom, are rarely like actually intended by the writers to be all that impressive, if at all.
Creation feat worst em all ((Ice feats are second place). Like AHiT you got 4-A creation feats and like, 1 or 2 9-A feats.

Honestly wonder how many verses out there actually attribute creation feats like we do here

 

[Da3ggman]

We genuely may get High 6A Deltarune (Calc got accepted): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Edutyn/DT_CH5_Calcs#The_justice_hits_hard

a CRT of the sun being real and the validity of Flowery moving it would be needed tho, maybe when it becomes more than a month of the chapter release so it's not spoilers

I’m tired man

 

[Breadbear83]

I’m tired man

At least more believable than the old 4A...

Up to y'all having a civil war over this

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Aside from Chapter 5 stuff, what’s the highest valid and non-controversial feat we have right now? Is it the Titan’s PE or is there issues with that one too? Not a calcer so idk how the math lines up.

 

[Rodriiogo]

Erm actually Miss Mizzle's storm is like, Low 7-B

But yeah I do think most feats that aren't like, a big boom, are rarely like actually intended by the writers to be all that impressive, if at all.

My issue isn't even with KE in general, I'm fine with using KE when it's visibly meant to be a impressive feat, like there's a difference between:

• Character who somehow gets above the "200kg" because of like density of his material just jumping or clapping his hands fast is somehow "Multi-City Block level" (Tenna)
• Character's punch physically clears the weather with the entire verse calling it a feat meant to be impressive and to show the strength he used (Deku)

One is clearly meant to be calculated like we do since it's meant to show "oh look he's so strong he can do this", the other isn't even meant to be a feat to be calculated, it's literally just inflating stuff to things that were never meant to be used as a feat because "he must be made out of steel so he's heavy and if you compare his speed to something completely unrelated then he is very fast therefore very strong!"

(Note: Not insulting anyone who made calculations like that as if they were purposefully trying to inflate the verse, just expressing a disappointment that the wiki somehow seems to accept and promote this inflation)

Creation feat worst em all ((Ice feats are second place). Like AHiT you got 4-A creation feats and like, 1 or 2 9-A feats.

Creation feats shouldn't scale normally, that's something the wiki establishes clearly but people still somehow manage to make characters scale to it over non-sense. Or just ignoring stuff like the fact that we have Stabilization Feat Rules that say stuff like this:

Spoiler: Stabilization

Requirement 2: Prove that the stabilized structure is being directly sustained by the power of the character and not from the character's abilities, life force, existence, magical properties, or any unknown connection that is independent of their statistics.

Requirement 4: Prove that the power of the character's stabilization consistently scales to their regular statistics, similar to our standards for creation feats.

Possible Common Limitations:

• The character's existence only sustains the structure.
• The character's life force only sustains the structure.
• The character and the structure are linked by a magical or unknown component.
• The character's regular statistics aren't consistently portrayed at the level of what they sustain.

Reminds you of someone right?

Honestly wonder how many verses out there actually attribute creation feats like we do here

All that should, should get wiped.

 

[LittleGuy99]

We genuely may get High 6A Deltarune (Calc got accepted): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Edutyn/DT_CH5_Calcs#The_justice_hits_hard

a CRT of the sun being real and the validity of Flowery moving it would be needed tho, maybe when it becomes more than a month of the chapter release so it's not spoilers

Oh, neat

 

[Breadbear83]

Maybe with the flowers, we need to make a "flower physiology", cuz Flowery himself, at the end of the chapter says that they aren't lightners nor darkners, that they are live beings

Generally they would have darkner physiology, but they have human characteristics like some of them looking like humans, flowery and blue soul have white dialogue sprites (like lighteners), and they already say that the can't live in dark worlds for long, a darkner logically can live in a dark world

I don't think the flowers had the ability to create dark fountains, but they could have a bit of lightner physiology

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Outerspace ?

 

[Omegabronic]

Maybe with the flowers, we need to make a "flower physiology", cuz Flowery himself, at the end of the chapter says that they aren't lightners nor darkners, that they are live beings

Generally they would have darkner physiology, but they have human characteristics like some of them looking like humans, flowery and blue soul have white dialogue sprites (like lighteners), and they already say that the can't live in dark worlds for long, a darkner logically can live in a dark world

I don't think the flowers had the ability to create dark fountains, but they could have a bit of lightner physiology

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Omegabronic/sandboxPlantPhysiology(Deltarune)

 

[LittleGuy99]

Spoiler

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Spoiler

Spoiler

It depends on two things:

1. Can the Knight only nullify fake statistics like Flowery states, or does it extend to all damage and stats considering Flowery’s real stats should’ve dealt more than 0 damage?
2. Does the Knight have any way to harm Pink?

If the Knight can’t negate all damage/stats and can’t harm Pink, then her invulnerability alongside Gerson’s power and speed should be enough to win.

If the Knight can take out Pink then maybe Gerson can solo alongside the small help the other three might give at the start, however if the Knight can just nullify all damage and ignore all stats then the other side are cooked.

 

[Edutyn]

 

[Comiphorous]

when does normalnpc get a profile for absolutely wrecking onionsan and then giving out the corpse to people?

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

when does normalnpc get a profile for absolutely wrecking onionsan and then giving out the corpse to people?

How strong you need to be able put down a giant octopus?

 

[Da3ggman]

How strong you need to be able put down a giant octopus?

Technically human level if you’re a little lucky and know where to shoot

 

[Randomuser3412]

We'll get more about the Hometown Butcher when Gaster is fully revealed and his machinations are in the open, I imagine. Best to wait on that.