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DELTARUNE; Chapter 3 & 4 !!!SPOILER!!! Discussion Thread

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What value in 4-A would the titan scale?
 
Speaking of that I think I've found the issue Agnaa was speaking of.

Basically, if you imagine X running, and in the next frame a torch is light up, both the X and the light from the torch have reached different distances, but ofc X did not run at Relativistic speeds or something.
Ye exactly.
On this I meant the little light emanations that are constantly emitted, with the pumpin being relative to them in speed.
Ohhhh okay.

Yeah that makes sense then. Calc away!
 
Speaking of calcs, can you go check this out? It's upgrading the Light World characters' speed.
As long as I won't get asked to do any other evals for C3/4, sure.

I'll get to it after handling some HR stuff.
 
I added a few thing to this. To summarize: Tenna is 6 meters, Elnina 9-B+, another subsonic feat, and Gerson Hipersonic+ with 8-C KE. Although with this last one I have my doubts since I had to assume some parts.
 
I've arrived. Can someone summ up current discussions?

I took note of the Titan being the incarnation of the fear of darkness on some Chainsaw Man shi. But I'm guessing there's a lot more to discuss.

There's also a plethora of more sound-based attacks and therefor reaction speed feats which just becomes more and more consistent.
 
I've arrived. Can someone summ up current discussions?
I haven’t been paying full attention to the exact arguments as I’ve not been well, however the three main things are:
  1. The Titans scaling to Dark Worlds due to them being living fountains, with other characters potentially scaling or downscaling from that. I think there was also some mention of characters potentially scaling to their creation/reality warping feats.
  2. Dark Worlds going up to 4-A at max instead of 7-B due to there being a starry sky in the TV World and the Church World.
  3. There’s some arguably light-based feats in the new chapters as well.
 
Just played through Chapter 4 again.

Where's the statement that the Titan = A Fountain?

Because instead, we had Ralsei saying "When a Fountain runs wild, it creates a Titan", and "Kris, you can seal fountains can't you? Maybe... if the Titan... is anything like a Fountain... You could..."

I guess in lieu of the 4-A stuff, if PE's not a useful avenue, we might be able to calc the material it was coated with? Looks kind of like plaster, or wood. With how huge it is, that might be something.
Can Gerson teleport or is he just ridiculously fast?
Assume fast unless there's good indications otherwise.
 
Because instead, we had Ralsei saying "When a Fountain runs wild, it creates a Titan", and "Kris, you can seal fountains can't you? Maybe... if the Titan... is anything like a Fountain... You could..."
Very good point. I still think the Titan should be at least 8-C, possibly/likely 4-A. The description could be this:

"At least 8-C (Is comparable, if not superior, to the Delta Warriors.), possibly 4-A (Is similar to the Dark Fountains which can contain starry skies, as evidenced by Kris being able to seal the Titan and the Titan and Dark Fountains both being comprised out of the same Darkness.)"
 
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Just played through Chapter 4 again.

Where's the statement that the Titan = A Fountain?

Because instead, we had Ralsei saying "When a Fountain runs wild, it creates a Titan", and "Kris, you can seal fountains can't you? Maybe... if the Titan... is anything like a Fountain... You could..."

I guess in lieu of the 4-A stuff, if PE's not a useful avenue, we might be able to calc the material it was coated with? Looks kind of like plaster, or wood. With how huge it is, that might be something.

Assume fast unless there's good indications otherwise.
Titans emerge from dark fountains, they hatch from fountains, when a titan is defeated the fountain disappears
It makes sense
 
Titans emerge from dark fountains, they hatch from fountains, when a titan is defeated the fountain disappears
It makes sense
If you wanna take that route to it, feel free.

I was just looking for stronger statements because people mentioned them, and if they exist, they'd be a lot more convincing.
 
TBF we can look for the Japanese version just like we did for the Hyper Goner as both the languages are canon (we do this for Sonic too after all), as it can help to clear the vagueness.

Otherwise I can be fine with just a possibly whether the Titan is a fully walking Fountain or something that just came out of it.
 
Ooh good idea!
 
I've made profiles like, a day or two after something released lol. I don't think that's a rule

But yes, it's not great to make profiles without consulting other supporters
 
...yeah no one is going to mention that the player controlling Frisk in the weird route following chapter 2...tried to
seemingly control Noelle and it almost seemed like a non consensual thing?or that was the implications that fridge horror can get you
Creepy AF...
Also Frisk
 
Related, so I think that Card Kingdom should be renamed to Card Castle, as that's the canon name now (1, 2 and 3), and it's from indeed the Chapter 1 folks.
idk, the third one is referring to only King’d actual castle at the end of the chapter as it’s being compared to Queen’s castle. Since that area is the only part of the world that’s actually a castle, it wouldn’t make sense for the entire world to share the name “Card Castle”. The name of the theme that plays there is also Card Castle, which would make it extra weird for the entire world to be called that. As for the Pippins dialogue, that could just mean they mainly resided in the castle area or something.
 
After we get some calcs accepted I can make a lil CRT for all the obvious stuff. Might leave the 4-A physical stuff for someone else to tackle tho lol

So the super obvious stuff is like...
  • Ralsei; Flight and Fire Manipulation
  • Susie: Better healing
  • Kris: Can we please finally list their gender as non-binary, Light Manipulation
  • Remove 9-B Lightworld (The crack is confirmed to be just a visual for the fountain)
  • 4-A Dark World (Creation at least)
  • Roulxs; Law Hax
Plus a lot more I'm sure, I'll get a list later :v
 
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