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Delsin Rowe vs Kakine Teitoku

Gargoyle One said:
He'll never get too tired that he can't keep dodging attacks that are millions of times worse then the difference between Usain Bolt and a physically impaired Snail.
It's going to take literally hours for Kakine to even do something resembling a dangerous attacks by which Delsin completely steps out of the way before having a hot dog and a Soda.
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Why would it take Kakine hours to do a dangerous attack?

Aside from that I don't agree that he would never get too tired. His speed is irrelevant for that, only his stamina.

If you are too tired to run or even better unconcious from exhaustion or sleeping because of lack of sleep, you can be killed irregardless the speed gap.

There is no limit regarding how long a fight may take to be completed. If no decision is done this can go on for 80 years or even 1000 years.


And there is more: If you constantly destroy dark matter beings you will be contaminated with it. Fluid parts will splash on the skin, microscopic traces will be breathed in and go into the blood stream.

Eventually manipulating the microscopic bits of dark matter in Delsins body could settle this. (Of course Kakine can't target with the speed gap, but he can simply make all dark matter in the sourroundings freeze in place)
 
Because it's an MHS character trying to attack an FTL character.

Speed isn't irrelevant towards stamina, the faster you are, the less of an action you have to perform by comparison to the character, Kakine cannot even move his finger by comparison to how fast Delsin is by comparison, for every little time Delsin can just stroll up to Kakine and poke him he can sit there and eat lunch for how long it will take Kakine to regenerate and perform another attack.

Conduits such as Delsin are damn near immune to biodisease, radiation poisoning does nothing at all to them, Conduits even created new types of poison to affect conduits and more powerful and well developed natural conduits like Delsin can even resist that.
 
Speed gap obviously lessen the stamina consumption because from the perspective of a FTL character dodging a MHS doesn't take a dash or anything, walking would be enough.

I think that DT's point is more "Delsin will need to sleep, sooner or later" and unless he sleeps only for a few milliseconds, Kakine will kill him in the meantime.

That is, if Delsin doesn't actually have limitless stamina, otherwise he is going to dodge until the end of times
 
Assuming he needs to sleep and I'm assuming a guy who fought for days on end without any sort of sleep for the entirety of the game (And Abigail never once went to sleep for two whole weeks) and that's while fighting people who can one actually harm them, two, keep up with them and 3, actually pose a semi decent threat to them, I still doubt it's going to come to that.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Conduits such as Delsin are damn near immune to biodisease, radiation poisoning does nothing at all to them, Conduits even created new types of poison to affect conduits and more powerful and well developed natural conduits like Delsin can even resist that.
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Not being killed by poison and radiation Ôëá not getting it into the body, so that is no counter-argument.


And it is actually not just sleep, though that alone is sufficient of a reason as I didn't actually saw an argument against it yet.

Even if a character only has to perform extremly casual actions, that doesn't mean that the stamina doesn't go down. Taking a walk is a casual action for a human, yet doing that 12 hours is exhausting. Doing it 24 hours with out break would easily knock many people out.

Having to fight very causally means that the stamina drains slowly, not that it doesn't drain at all.
 
@DT You don't need to quote me, it saves a lot of space if you just name me at the beginning of the post.

Taking a walk wouldn't slow Delsin down, hell him doing a Neon Dash for a full day straight never tired him out, never actually needing to run or dash to an already far beyond superhuman character would not be an issue for Delsin

And Delsin isn't just fighting casually, he's just walking this fight, which is more then enough to blitz Kakine.

I'll just concede anyway that Kakine kills Delsin when he sleeps until Teen clears up the limited stamina thing.
 
Kakine for DT reaons. Or DM outlasts his lifespan which could be 100s,1000s or 10000 of years etc...
 
I mean.

Delsin could still probably touch Kakine, run off and get a few blast cores, come back and use his powers against him.

Then what?
 
No.... But this is Evil Delsin so he could probably just absorb Kakine and be done.
 
From where?

His Regen is only Macro Quantium, so that's not saving him.
 
Another place where Dark Matter happens to be, as he has an almost unlimited amount of clones with Dark Matter
 
Delsin can't absorb Kakine's powers. Neither can him absorb DM itself. It isn't given to him by his genes,but by the CP. Also, trying to absorb Kakine is suicide, since he can instantly destroy matter with his own Dark Matter (Its a ******* non-existent material. It only exists because he creates it.)
 
SchroKatze said:
Delsin can't absorb Kakine's powers. Neither can him absorb DM itself. It isn't given to him by his genes,but by the CP.
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VERSE EQUALIZATION SON
 
Evil Delsin would SUCC his powers before exploding him. I don't see why Verse Equalization stops him.
 
Tier gap explodes Kakine.

Because espers powers are based entirely on their calculations and mentality changing the world on quantum levels to affect reality.

Unless Delsin can absorb it and somehow calculate it (this needs really potent calculation prowess, above super computers.), he isn't going to succ.
 
That's........... That's just a limitation on what espers can do. Delsin is just fine going quantum stuffs without advanced calculations.
 
The point is: The espers powers NEED calculations to work. Kakine's one is even worse. At least 25,000 types of energy + non-existent calculations, weird physics calculations and etc.

Thats how it works.
 
Absorbing Kakine or Dark Matter is a bad idea, considering then he can then try to take over your body while fighting you from the outside at the same time.

And even if you copy esper powers you do need the enhanced brain calculations to run them and use them. Misaki cannot use her power while she's hijacking another person's body, even lower level espers, because their brains cannot support her Level 5 ability, but she can do so when using Mikoto's body since she has a Level 5 brain.
 
DMUA said:
That's........... That's just a limitation on what espers can do. Delsin is just fine going quantum stuffs without advanced calculations.
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Learn to drive an automatic car and the drive manual see if it's the limitation of the driver or the car
 
Delsin can't randomly absorb anyone's abilities. Augustine gave her D.U.P concrete abilities, they are noted to not be natural/prime conduits, and Delsin couldn't absorb their powers.

Delsin is SC and FTL, while Kakine is CL and HHS+ w/MHS combat and reflexes. As mentioned many times, AP, Durability, and Speed stomp.

Would Kakine's ability to turn things into sunlight work on a superior opponent?

Isn't this Kakine's Large Island Key where he doesn't have Regen or immortality? I'm going off them both being LI 6 days ago.

Delsin has many effective offensive and defensive abilities here, which would work on Kakine due to being weaker.

Inconclusive, unless this is Kakine's second key.
 
I would like to add that even thought Densil is faster, kakine might be able to predict where he is gonna move trough calculations and even use Postcognitio to more easily predict his movement
 
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