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Death of the Endless Additionals Revision

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Okay. Then we should skip them as well.
 
That should probably be fine to add then.
 
They are all Abstract Existences Type 1, yes. However i think the only of them that has it on their profile is Destiny.
 
Is somebody experienced willing to add the accepted parts?
 
Nonexistent Physiology:

Perception Manipulation:

Willpower Manipulation:

Resistance to Willpower:https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kQp8l306...CLcB/s1600/lucyknowsdeathdoesntfuckaround.jpg
 
The empathic manipulation scans are from the non-canon anime rendition of the early Sandman storyline, so no.
 
The Fate Manipulation is an out of context scan. Death did not manipulate anything. Timothy Hunter's father simply traded his life for the life of timothy. The scan about Hob Gandling is also not fate manip, its simply Death asking Hob if he wants to die because Death agreed not to take Hob as long as he doesnt want to.

I also agree with passive Empathic Manip, those who sees Death will feel like shes some they have known for a long time, feel in love with her etc. Its not just her being charismatic or beautiful this is clearly intended as an effect of Deaths presence, this is something that happens everytime someone sees Death.
 
That is a good point. We should probably skip that as well then.
 
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This is just one example but everyone who meets Death falls in love with her at first sight or they immediately think that Death is a friend who they can tell all their secrets
 
Theres also a problem with the scan in Biological Manipulation.

I dont think its Bio Manip because when Death turned Wanda into female it was after she died. Death sort of turned her soul into female. Or as your scan said maybe its because Death also sees Wanda as a female
 
Acid Manipulation

Death disnt use any kind of acid to dissolve Plath and her Ankh. They were dissolve by some kind of energy/light
 
Sandman31 said:
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This is just one example but everyone who meets Death falls in love with her at first sight or they immediately think that Death is a friend who they can tell all their secrets
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That was the scan used and it was decided that one wasn't sufficient
 
Okay. Thank you for the help.
 
I added most of it and left a couple more things out because the scans didn't provide enough context. Extrasensory Perception for example.
 
To make clear, The Endless are Type 1 Abstracts without any trace of doubt, that's made clear several times in Sandman, not Type 2.
 
@POTM

Thank you for he help.

@Tsubasa

Are they listed as type 2 currently?
 
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Are they listed as type 2 currently?
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it was added as Type 2 on Death's profile if anything.

Only Destiny had it listed, all of the endless should have it listed as well.
 
@Ant

I went with Type 2 because their individual aspects like Morpheus could still be "killed" without affecting the entire abstraction. It seemed safer to me, but if they should be Type 1 then I can see why. I can't write a good justification for the page regarding that though.

Edit: Destiny apparently needs the justification as well.
 
It is made clear several times in Sandman that the Endless aren't "Aspects/parts of their concept" or anything like that, they ARE their concept in the most literal way. Saying they are Type 2 is literally say that they cannot be destroyed as long as they exist, because they don't "Embody an abstraction", they are the abstraction.

Morpheus dying, as stated, is nothing more than "killing a point of view" of what Dream is.
 
There are several instances where it is mentioned in the Sandman series iirc. If anything i think just the fact they are primal truths of existence and Wave Functions would be enough to be put there.

If anything the Sandman Endless Nights also talks about it, around these pages.
 
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