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DC Comics - Lucifer Abilities

I cam agree for immortality type 5 since he didn't really tank any death manipulation attack but death seems to have no claim on him even he intended it to happen, so immortality type 5 is fine by me.

Scan didn't say "infinite" just shows possible deaths that could happen which he ignored.
Still resistance to probability manipulation but ask @Deagonx , I just skeptical on what to call such a manipulation to ignore possible death outcomes.

It said only when cain dies so I disagree since lucifer didn't kill him in the scan.

Agree to immortality type 2.

He resisted it before Elaine stepped in but I'd say resistance to body puppetry since she told him to bow which he resisted and while "weak" like you claim but could you send the scans?

Agree.

I don't see any healing more like resurrection.

Agree.

Seems more like durability negation and NPI.

This is obvious, Agree.

Agree.

Can you send scans of silkman immortality?

Agree.
Agree with @Vasco
 
Okay. What Vasco accepted can probably be applied then, in lack of better options.
 
Being beyond death shouldn't be immortality type 5. Just death manipulation resistance.

Also, for his cloth manipulation... i think that's just matter manipulation.
 
That makes sense to me, yes.

Thank you for the evaluations. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
 
Also, for his cloth manipulation... i think that's just matter manipulation.
Cloth manipulation page kinda exist.
Being beyond death shouldn't be immortality type 5. Just death manipulation resistance.
I thought of this several times but his conversation with death of the endless never had him resist any death manipulation from her, more like she can't claim him at all and he refuses to be claimed by her which she didn't kinda deny and his also stated to be greater than her(death) so it kinda qualifies for Deathless immortality than resistance to death manipulation.
 
Cloth manipulation page kinda exist.
Yes, but if somebody has advanced matter manipulation it is kind of redundant to list cloth manipulation.
I thought of this several times but his conversation with death of the endless never had him resist any death manipulation from her, more like she can't claim him at all and he refuses to be claimed by her which she didn't kinda deny and his also stated to be greater than her(death) so it kinda qualifies for Deathless immortality than resistance to death manipulation.
Good point.
 
Cloth manipulation page kinda exist.
Yeah, i know.
So what? He just created a suit.
He didn't manipulate any cloth at all.
That's easily just matter manipulation.
I thought of this several times but his conversation with death of the endless never had him resist any death manipulation from her, more like she can't claim him at all and he refuses to be claimed by her which she didn't kinda deny and his also stated to be greater than her(death) so it kinda qualifies for Deathless immortality than resistance to death manipulation.
That's fine i guess
 
Yeah, i know.
So what? He just created a suit.
He didn't manipulate any cloth at all.
That's easily just matter manipulation
Users are able to create, shape and control clothing towards their will.
 
Cloth manipulation should probably be reserved for characters who uniquely have an ability to manipulate clothing, not anyone with matter manipulation that can be applied to clothing (since clothing is matter).
 
No, unbound by life and death is just resistance to life and death.
my guy, it says being unbound by life and death is immo 5 on the page
 
This is from lucifer nirvana but i dont have the scan, just the quote
"a fossil remnant from an earlier, cruder creation. His body is a weaving that has to be renewed constantly. His spirit too, come to that. A messy form of immortality, but it seems to do the job."
Is he getting reincarnated or his body just keeping renewing itself without reincarnation?
 
But his immortality negation via erasing silkman should be on a higher level because its either type 3 or 4
 
Wait lmao Lucifer should already have immortality negation because its already on his profile
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"Turns an immortal woman to dust with a single tap"
So immortality negation via deconstruction
Immortality type 1? If not I don't see it as any negation just deconstruction.
But his immortality negation via erasing silkman should be on a higher level because its either type 3 or 4
I'd need to see scans first to know the type of immortality silkman has.
 
What are the conclusions here so far?
 
Okay. That is probably fine to apply then.
 
would the void be able to erase non immortals tho? because of the negation bit
Well, it has no feats of doing so. Anyway, isn't your argument that Lucifer merged with it? Void is nothingness so why would it need to erase?
 
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