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DC Comics - Lucifer Abilities

If he is able to merge with and operate as a single entity (which is void in our case), then limited NEP 1 appears to be satisfactory.
 
He shouldn't. We can't be sure that he merged with it. The whole point is that he is free from predetermination and as a result his future remains a mystery to us.
 
Why is it wank and why is it annoying?
There is nothing suggesting he merged.
The scan is just showing how small is he becoming in comparison to the void. Not to mention that void probably isn't even the overvoid but just some random void.
 
He does not need to merge it, if he has an ability to do it, he can have limited NEP 1.
 
There is nothing suggesting he merged.
The scan is just showing how small is he becoming in comparison to the void. Not to mention that void probably isn't even the overvoid but just some random void.
A random void that contains endless conjugations of creations as nothing vs a semi sentient Void. Sure. This constant need of treating Overvoid as something more than it actually is is quite irritating.
 
A random void that contains endless conjugations of creations as nothing vs a semi sentient Void. Sure.
That's not what i was saying. Sure you can argue they being the same but there is still something suggesting he merged or can merge with the void.
 
Just because we could potentially inhabit a room that contains only emptiness (regardless of whether we would survive in it or not) doesn't mean that I am synonymous with emptiness itself.
 
I thought it was a hoax that he couldn't merge with NEP 1, but a potential rating should suffice for now.
 
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That's clearly not meant as literal. "Or becomes it" is just asking a question become he is becoming so small and insignificant in comparison to the void he is seen as nothing.
 
Gasper, there is no evidence to suggest that he is incapable of merging with void, so a potential rating should suffice for now. Additionally, your assertion seems to be based on your own interpretation. It's possible that one could become so insignificant and minute that they merge with emptiness and become void.
 
Gasper, there is no evidence to suggest that he is incapable of merging with void, so a potential rating should suffice for now. Additionally, your assertion seems to be based on your own interpretation. It's possible that one could become so insignificant and minute that they merge with emptiness and become void.
That's the only time something like that is ever mentioned and never again. In the newer comics he clearly isn't merged with the void or anything ridiculous like that.
 
That's the only time something like that is ever mentioned and never again. In the newer comics he clearly isn't merged with the void or anything ridiculous like that.
I fail to see the reason for not assigning a potential rating to him. Do you comprehend the concept of a potential rating? I am not proposing a definitive rating, so your second sentence is unrelated to my suggestion.
 
That's clearly not meant as literal. "Or becomes it" is just asking a question become he is becoming so small and insignificant in comparison to the void he is seen as nothing.
Its "not literal" has been used a lot to dismiss something without actual proof. Its not a comparison of his size but rather the fact that his future is unknown to us. There is no actual absolute or subjective vantage point for us to measure him against the Void.
That's the only time something like that is ever mentioned and never again. In the newer comics he clearly isn't merged with the void or anything ridiculous like that.
This is spoken in ignorance more than anything.
 
I fail to see the reason for not assigning a potential rating to him. Do you comprehend the concept of a potential rating? I am not proposing a definitive rating, so your second sentence is unrelated to my suggestion.
Why exactly? Like i said, that's COMPLETELY unsupported and the only scan implying that is the one above which can also be interpreted differently than what ya'll suggesting.
 
Gasper, if you continue to misunderstand the attributes of a possibly rating, I see no point in further deliberation. Until then, I am in disagreement with your viewpoint.
 
Its "not literal" has been used a lot to dismiss something without actual proof. Its not a comparison of his size but rather the fact that his future is unknown to us. There is no actual absolute or subjective vantage point for us to measure him against the Void.

This is spoken in ignorance more than anything.
What? How was my comment ignorant in any way?
Look, i you really believe he merged with the void at one point and is never brought back ever again, then go for it.
But just know i completely disagree for reasons in my comments above.
 
Gasper, if you continue to misunderstand the attributes of a possibly rating, I see no point in further deliberation. Until then, I am in disagreement with your viewpoint.
I didn't misunderstand anything. How the hell would you give a character an ability he is clearly never demonstrated and the only vague ass statement about "... or becomes it" is justifying this at all?
 
What? How was my comment ignorant in any way?
Look, i you really believe he merged with the void at one point and is never brought back ever again, then go for it.
But just know i completely disagree for reasons in my comments above.
Because it is based on ignorance. The final page is the culmination of the series. A showcase of Lucifer finally achieving the freedom he had desired. Just as in Sandman when he thought he would be free after leaving his kingdom, and in Lucifer when he creates a new Creation, and here when he finally finds freedom from himself. How would he do this in early parts if he hadn't actually found his freedom in the first place? This is not some magic trick that he should do this frequently. Its the character finally getting what he desired. Do you disregard someone achieving something because they don't do it everyday?

As per the sequels, Holly Black's Lucifer has very little bearing to the plot. The characters, cosmology and even the story of the Carey version are changed or disregarded and has very filmsy canon to the Sandman Universe.

Watters' version precede Carey's Lucifer and there is no Gate to the Void yet. Also, the angels were one with the Void in the beginning here. So yeah, ignorant.
 
Because it is based on ignorance. The final page is the culmination of the series. A showcase of Lucifer finally achieving the freedom he had desired. Just as in Sandman when he thought he would be free after leaving his kingdom, and in Lucifer when he creates a new Creation, and here when he finally finds freedom from himself. How would he do this in early parts if he hadn't actually found his freedom in the first place? This is not some magic trick that he should do this frequently. Its the character finally getting what he desired. Do you disregard someone achieving something because they don't do it everyday?

As per the sequels, Holly Black's Lucifer has very little bearing to the plot. The characters, cosmology and even the story of the Carey version are changed or disregarded and has very filmsy canon to the Sandman Universe.

Watters' version precede Carey's Lucifer and there is no Gate to the Void yet. Also, the angels were one with the Void in the beginning here. So yeah, ignorant.
He is just flying to other creations which is then further commented upon in his solo run by saying "i have passed between multiverses"
Again, nothing implies he merged with the void.
 
He is just flying to other creations which is then further commented upon in his solo run by saying "i have passed between multiverses"
Again, nothing implies he merged with the void.
So, you just ignored everything I posted. Good on you.
 
I don't see how is most of your comment relevant. I can just as much say what you wrote in the first half of your comment is just your interpretation.
Providing context, to an argument you yourself are using, isn't relevant?
 
Aha, so yours is valid because it does not “contradict” anything, but theirs that is only interpreting on a possibly rating which the panel suggests directly is invalid because there is no “feats” happened where you are aware that we give rating and abilities to statements and feats as well?

Furthermore, can you provide me with the evidence that supports your interpretation?
 
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