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This is step one in my plan to create a complete set of Fourth World profiles for this wiki, as most major characters are missing and the ones we do have are in need of large-scale updates.
Quick tangent: Mordru's Pre-Crisis key needs to be updated to 2-C since he scales significantly higher than Pre-Crisis Superma
Intro
I'm starting with Darkseid because he's the most prominent New God and all our information about the true nature of New Gods comes from him, thanks to Grant Morrison and Final Crisis.
In order to make this thread, as well as to make future New God profiles since this wiki is lacking them, I examined every single issue Darkseid has appeared in, starting from his creation by Jack Kirby all the way to his latest appearance in Justice League Odyssey. All these issues can be read online for free at *************** (either use adblocker and an antivirus program or go there at your own risk).
Proposed updated profile for Darkseid: Here
Misconceptions about COIE, Avatars, and Darkseid's True Self
Before anyone panics, I am NOT trying to downgrade his true self, that has nothing to do with this.
1. The term "avatar" is used incorrectly. I don't know where it got started but it's wrong.
2. We were given the actual terminology for Darkseid's true form by Morrison, in Multiversity.
3. Darkseid and Apokolips weren't rebooted in COIE. There's no such thing as "Pre-Crisis avatars" and "Post-Crisis avatars", there's just one Darkseid who was explicitly the same across the reboot. And I'm not talking about True Darkseid, I'm talking about the lesser one.
Actively creating Avatars is not something Morrison ever associated with True Darkseid
"Avatar" refers to a specific ability Highfather and Darkseid demonstrated when their Pre-Flashpoint selves were trapped in the Source Wall. It was also an attempt to give a valid excuse for potential times Darkseid seems weaker than he should be, similar to Doombots or Thanos clones in Marvel. Here is each time we've seen Darkseid's avatar:
These were not two separate avatars, they were the same avatar. That avatar was not an avatar of Morrison's True Darkseid, but an avatar of the normal, Pre-Flashpoint Darkseid that got himself stuck in the Source Wall. Avatar is not an accurate term for the projections of True Darkseid into lower realities, it refers to a specific ability Pre-Flashpoint Darkseid (and Highfather) demonstrated. He makes clones from his energy that act in his place.
The actual term, and description, given by Grant Morrison in Multiversity for the lower-dimensional versions of the True New Gods, is emanatio. This scan also tells us that the "True" New Gods are called Godheads.
As I showed above, there isn't a case of "Pre-Crisis avatars" and "Post-Crisis avatars". Rather, the Pre-Flashpoint emanation of Darkseid, and all the New Gods, was literally the same and was not rebooted by COIE. As shown below:
Correcting a large-scale misconception about "jobbing"
After having read every appearance of Darkseid, I've come to realize that for the most part this widespread idea is a bunch of baloney.
First of all, there aren't actually many instances of Darkseid fighting Superman (or other 4-B characters) and jobbing Post-COIE, and in Superman's case there's even a valid excuse for his being defeated in battle (John Byrne's avatar explanation specifically mentioned "beaten in battle"). Two instances are also shown to be Desaad impersonating Darkseid.
Second of all, it is literally not Darkseid's character to beat people mercilessly or erase them from existence or mindrape them or transmute them. He outright states this way back in Kirby's original material, choosing not to kill the Forever People and even declining to do anything to Serifan, who could not possibly be a threat at that point. He clearly states that he only does what is needed. Darkseid, in almost every "battle", prefers banishing people to doing anything else to them. Let's list a few examples:
Now let's see where the idea of Darkseid jobbing really comes from: a single fight with Doomsday (written by Dan Jurgens, Doomsday's creator who also thought in the same issue that amped Superman was only island level) and a few fights with Superman in the early 2000s. These more widely-known fights have completely changed the narrative on Darkseid's power level and "jobber" nature, despite being overall inconsistent with Darkseid's character and power. Even if you ignored the avatar excuse, those fights are better described as high-ends for Superman than proof Darkseid is always a jobber.
Darkseid's current scaling is wrong and lacks a ton of informatio
I'm sure everyone reading this post is aware that Pre-Crisis Superman was recently upgraded to 2-C. While Darkseid certainly scales to that, he would have been 2-C regardless.
He was not "consistently depicted as a threat to Superman", he was consistently depicted as far beyond Superman. This was already decided on here, in this thread, but I'll go over a full list of points to be comprehensive:
It should be noted somewhere that Post-Flashpoint Darkseid was amped in Darkseid War so people don't think everyone and their mother, like Aquama, scale to Anti-Monitor. Darkseid was stated by Mr. Miracle to have gotten a powerup pre-Darkseid War. And it wasn't the Mobius Chamber energies, that was in order to return himself to normal power after he got space collapsed on him at the end of Justice League: Origin.
Powers and Abilities
Almost none of Darkseid's Powers and Abilities have scans proving they're legit, and I also think Existence Erasure is better to use than Void Manipulation regarding the Omega Beams. They are literally described as existence erasure in the comics.
Also, Post-Flashpoint Darkseid has displayed very little of the versatility Pre-Flashpoint Darkseid did, and considering he is explicitly a fragment and not even a normal emanation, I don't think he should automatically receive the full moveset the latter had. In fact, the updated DC character book for the New 52 omits any mention of old guidebooks regarding Darkseid's Omega Beams being capable of disintegrating, transporting, and resurrecting their target. I've created a separate tabber for Post-Flashpoint abilities and updated his sections.
Here's the list:
Powers (Pre-FP)
Superhuman Physical Characteristics
Genius Intelligence
Martial Arts (Comparable to Orion in martial skill)
Immortality (Type 1; Type 4 - After truly dying, Darkseid resurrected himself from Orion's body; Type 8 - Returned to life after being destroyed by the Spectre, as he is necessary for existence; Type 9 - the true Darkseid exists in a higher-dimensional plane)
Self-Sustenance (Type 1)
Large Size (Type 6 - New Gods are so large that the Earth is a speck to them).
Extrasensory Perception (Can see invisible beings and detect souls)
Portal Creation and Dimensional Travel (Can open boom tubes at will)
Intangible Homing Attack (Omega Beams seek out their target and can pass through physical barriers)
Existence Erasure and Durability Negation (Omega Beams can erase their target from existence, making it so they never were)
BFR via boom tubes and the Omega Effect (Can banish other by opening boom tubes on them or by teleporting them through space and time with his Omega Beams)
Energy Manipulation and Matter Manipulation (Dissipated Wildfire's energy form in quanta; Can fire energy blasts tuned to his target's molecular structure to inflict the most damage)
Petrification (Turned Slo-bo to stone)
Transmutation (Changed Miracle Mister Soap to mud)
Soul Manipulation (Shattered souls using the Omega Effect)
Energy Absorption (Can absorb energy on a planetary scale)
Forcefield Creation (Can create Omega-energy barriers)
Teleportation (Can use Omega Beams to teleport himself as well as others)
Non-Physical Interaction (Pulled Professor Stein out of the Firestorm Matrix; Used Omega Beams to knock back Secret, who was intangible)
Life Manipulation (Used Omega Beams to trap Cyborg Superman's life force in a metal sphere; Animated a giant statue while trapped in the Source Wall)
Resurrection (Raised a massive army of Parademons from the dead; Resurrected Desaad after disintegrating him)
Paralysis Inducement and Information Analysis (Paralyzed Infinity Man and probed for his weakness)
Aura (Can enhance physical attacks by cloaking himself in energy)
Healing (Healed Orion from losing half his body)
Duplication (Can create avatars from his energy while his main body is busy, such as when he was trapped in the Source Wall)
Astral Projection (Can create images of his head that he can project his Omega Beams through)
Power Bestowal (Imbued a baby with some of his power to create Validus; Granted some of his Omega Effect to Bedlam)
Power Nullification (Removed Bouncing Boy's power)
Magic (Can manipulate magic energy, shown when he contained Black Mary Marvel's power)
Size Manipulation (Can adjust his size at will)
Spatial Manipulation (Warped the path of Vykin's boom tube by will; His punch cracked the fabric of the dimension he was i)
Time Manipulation (Bent time using the Omega Effect to accelerate the growth of Desaad's new body)
Time Stop (Froze Godwave Ares by hardening both time and space around him)
Time Travel (Orion stated he can easily move through time)
Illusion Creation (Made illusions for Superman and Wonder Woman to fight; they were fooled until Darkseid gave himself away)
Creation (Used his energy to create the opposite of Takio, Stayne; Can recreate his followers from inanimate objects)
Telekinesis (Restrained Superman and Infinity Man in the air)
Telepathy (Can drain information from minds and read them in an instant)
Mind Manipulation (Simultaneously controlled three billion Pre-Crisis Daxamites)
Empathic Manipulation (Reversed the effects of a feeling-altering soap)
Pain Manipulation (Can use the Omega Effect to cause pai, such as with Pre-Crisis Supergirl)
Biological Manipulation (Deformed Dream Girl and short-circuited the League's brain impulses)
Corruption (His clone servants were corrupted by his power)
Heat Manipulation (Incinerated Kalibak's flesh by touching him)
Weather Manipulation (Created a tornado and storm)
Summoning (Can summon forces from Apokolips at will; can also summon distant targets using Omega Beams)
Technology Manipulation (His Omega powers can tamper with advanced technology)
Resistances (Pre-FP)
Existence Erasure (Stated that his body resists the effects of his Omega power and no-sold Lex Luthor's weapon that rips apart existence)
Sealing (Removed bindings created by the Alpha Effect)
Telepathy (Resisted being telepathically scanned; Martian Manhunter stated New Gods are hard to touch telepathically)
Mind Manipulation (The strongest minds were ravaged just from seeing the Omega Effect, while Darkseid was able to immerse himself in and absorb all of it)
Empathic Manipulation (Was immune to Bekka's love inducement)
Fear Manipulation (Was immune to Desaad's fear-inducing machine)
Possession (Stated that Eclipso's possession wouldn't work on him)
Electricity Manipulation (Black Mary Marvel's magic lightning had no effect on him)
Ice Manipulation (Was unaffected by Superman's freeze breath)
Extreme Cold and Cosmic Radiation (Can fly in space unharmed)
Powers (Post-FP)
Superhuman Physical Characteristics
Genius Intelligence
Extrasensory Perception (Has 18 divine senses; Sensed Constantine's mind from another dimension despite his cloaking spells)
Immortality (Type 1)
Flight
Energy Projection (Can fire Omega Beams from his eyes and energy blasts from his hands)
Homing Attack (Omega Beams track their target)
Telepathy (Invaded Constantine's mind)
Portal Creation and Dimensional Travel (Can summon boom tubes; Physically pushed through a dimensional barrier Constantine had trouble crossing)
BFR (Boom tubes can be used to banish targets)
Summoning (Can use boom tubes to access the forces of Apokolips)
Regenerationn (Low-Mid - Regenerated his destroyed eyes)
Size Manipulation (Can grow immensely large)
Energy Absorption (Gained power by absorbing the powers of Old Gods)
Life Force Absorption (Absorbed life force from Wonder Woma and returned to adulthood by absorbing all of Zeus' life force)
Gravity Manipulation and Space-Time Manipulation (Can generate a gravitational pull so strong that space is twisted and time is stretched, so days pass with each second; Physically opened a hole in space)
Technology Manipulation (Began taking control of Mr. Terrific's boom spheres with his will)
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 - Captured the Black Racer and learned to summon and direct it)
Illusion Creation (Disguised himself as an alien medic)
Dream Manipulation (Invaded Grail's dreams)
Resistances (Post-FP)
Disease Manipulation (New God physiology makes them immune to disease)
Spatial Manipulation (No-sold the spatial rending caused by boom spheres and survived the collapse of a boom tube around him which caused fractures in the universal fabric, though he needed to recuperate in the Mobius Chamber afterward)
Antimatter Manipulation (Unaffected by the matter-destroying properties of antimatter)
Electricity Manipulation (Was unaffected by Zeus' lightning)
Powers (Godhead)
All previous abilities to a much greater degree, plus
Self-Sustenance (Types 2 and 3)
Non-Corporeal
Higher-Dimensional Existence
Large Size (Type 10 - Large enough to fall over the entire multiverse)
Reality Warping (His presence on Earth caused life to turn darker, time to become distorted, and the sky to rain blood)
Black Hole Creation (Created a personal singularity where all was one with him)
Absolute Mind Manipulation (Used the Anti-Life Equation to take complete control of all living beings who had heard the Equation broadcasted)
Creation (Can recreate other New Gods as emanations of his will)
Possession (Incarnated on Earth by possessing the body of Dan Turpi, a process that involved eating his consciousness from withi as well as eating his soul)
Pocket Reality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation and Death Manipulation (The Omega Sanctio allows him to trap his target in a never-ending series of created realities in which they are fated to die in more and more horrible ways)
Other problems with the profile
This is a full profile overhaul: a non-goofy render, proper terminology (emanations, not avatars), removal of the incorrect divide between Pre- and Post-Crisis, all the missing abilities (with a separate tabber for Post-Flashpoint since he's not as versatile), updated stat justifications and an actual speed value, an updated intelligence section, removal of a bogus weakness, the works.
Quick tangent: Mordru's Pre-Crisis key needs to be updated to 2-C since he scales significantly higher than Pre-Crisis Superma
Intro
I'm starting with Darkseid because he's the most prominent New God and all our information about the true nature of New Gods comes from him, thanks to Grant Morrison and Final Crisis.
In order to make this thread, as well as to make future New God profiles since this wiki is lacking them, I examined every single issue Darkseid has appeared in, starting from his creation by Jack Kirby all the way to his latest appearance in Justice League Odyssey. All these issues can be read online for free at *************** (either use adblocker and an antivirus program or go there at your own risk).
Proposed updated profile for Darkseid: Here
- Orion would also be affected by this, and his proposed updated profile is here. However, due to all the changes there, I will make another CRT for him. I just wanted to make it clear that Orion will be changed as well.
- I also have a profile for Highfather ready to go, and I have all the scans needed to update Big Barda and create profiles for Scott Free, Metron, Lightray, Kalibak, Desaad, Kanto, Granny Goodness, the Female Furies, and Doctor Bedlam.
Misconceptions about COIE, Avatars, and Darkseid's True Self
Before anyone panics, I am NOT trying to downgrade his true self, that has nothing to do with this.
1. The term "avatar" is used incorrectly. I don't know where it got started but it's wrong.
2. We were given the actual terminology for Darkseid's true form by Morrison, in Multiversity.
3. Darkseid and Apokolips weren't rebooted in COIE. There's no such thing as "Pre-Crisis avatars" and "Post-Crisis avatars", there's just one Darkseid who was explicitly the same across the reboot. And I'm not talking about True Darkseid, I'm talking about the lesser one.
Actively creating Avatars is not something Morrison ever associated with True Darkseid
"Avatar" refers to a specific ability Highfather and Darkseid demonstrated when their Pre-Flashpoint selves were trapped in the Source Wall. It was also an attempt to give a valid excuse for potential times Darkseid seems weaker than he should be, similar to Doombots or Thanos clones in Marvel. Here is each time we've seen Darkseid's avatar:
These were not two separate avatars, they were the same avatar. That avatar was not an avatar of Morrison's True Darkseid, but an avatar of the normal, Pre-Flashpoint Darkseid that got himself stuck in the Source Wall. Avatar is not an accurate term for the projections of True Darkseid into lower realities, it refers to a specific ability Pre-Flashpoint Darkseid (and Highfather) demonstrated. He makes clones from his energy that act in his place.
The actual term, and description, given by Grant Morrison in Multiversity for the lower-dimensional versions of the True New Gods, is emanatio. This scan also tells us that the "True" New Gods are called Godheads.
- As defined by Merriam-Webster, emanation means "the origination of the world by a series of hierarchically descending radiations from the Godhead through intermediate stages to matter". In other words, Godhead is the proper term for True New Gods, and the lower-dimensional New Gods are natural products of godly energy radiating down into those lower-dimensions. Different emanations, i.e. Post-Flashpoint, Injustice, etc. have different histories, power levels, and power-sets, but are all just aspects of the Godheads that originate from the Sphere of the Gods.
- This is why weird things like multiple versions of Apokolips exist in different continuities and multiverses within the Orrery. The planet isn't "making avatars", what we're seeing are natural emanations of the Fourth World, just like there are natural emanations of the Gods.
As I showed above, there isn't a case of "Pre-Crisis avatars" and "Post-Crisis avatars". Rather, the Pre-Flashpoint emanation of Darkseid, and all the New Gods, was literally the same and was not rebooted by COIE. As shown below:
- Remember that Apokolips and its universe were never destroyed in COIE.
Correcting a large-scale misconception about "jobbing"
After having read every appearance of Darkseid, I've come to realize that for the most part this widespread idea is a bunch of baloney.
First of all, there aren't actually many instances of Darkseid fighting Superman (or other 4-B characters) and jobbing Post-COIE, and in Superman's case there's even a valid excuse for his being defeated in battle (John Byrne's avatar explanation specifically mentioned "beaten in battle"). Two instances are also shown to be Desaad impersonating Darkseid.
Second of all, it is literally not Darkseid's character to beat people mercilessly or erase them from existence or mindrape them or transmute them. He outright states this way back in Kirby's original material, choosing not to kill the Forever People and even declining to do anything to Serifan, who could not possibly be a threat at that point. He clearly states that he only does what is needed. Darkseid, in almost every "battle", prefers banishing people to doing anything else to them. Let's list a few examples:
- Superman and Infinity Man invade Apokolips: Darkseid holds them with telekinesis and banishes them
- Superman sneaks into Apokolips: Darkseid destroys his disguise with Omega Beams, laughs at him, then banishes him
- The Outsiders invade Apokolips: Darkseid banishes them
- The Suicide Squad invades Apokolips: Darkseid banishes them
- The Darkstars invade Apokolips: Darkseid literally plays with them for "exercise" then chooses to give them what they came for, and banishes them
Now let's see where the idea of Darkseid jobbing really comes from: a single fight with Doomsday (written by Dan Jurgens, Doomsday's creator who also thought in the same issue that amped Superman was only island level) and a few fights with Superman in the early 2000s. These more widely-known fights have completely changed the narrative on Darkseid's power level and "jobber" nature, despite being overall inconsistent with Darkseid's character and power. Even if you ignored the avatar excuse, those fights are better described as high-ends for Superman than proof Darkseid is always a jobber.
Darkseid's current scaling is wrong and lacks a ton of informatio
I'm sure everyone reading this post is aware that Pre-Crisis Superman was recently upgraded to 2-C. While Darkseid certainly scales to that, he would have been 2-C regardless.
He was not "consistently depicted as a threat to Superman", he was consistently depicted as far beyond Superman. This was already decided on here, in this thread, but I'll go over a full list of points to be comprehensive:
- [Pre-Crisis] When Pre-Crisis Superman actually confronted Darkseid, this is what happened. One casual blast left Superman on the ground, too weak to even try stopping Darkseid from leaving.
- [Pre-Crisis] Superman was having significant trouble with a couple of Darkseid's fodder minions, that alone should tell you it's a bit bogus to simply scale Darkseid as a "threat to Superman" and call it a day.
- [Pre-Crisis] Darkseid realized at the end of the Great Darkness Saga storyline that he was actually still weaker than he had been in the 20th century. Feats from GDS include easily beating Mordru and Time Trapper (Controller minion) before even reaching his full power within that storyline, creating Validus, who has far greater strength/durability than Pre-Crisis Kryptonians, by imbuing a baby with some of his power, and completely stomping Mon-El, a Pre-Crisis Daxamite. Furthermore, a heavily amped Superboy and Supergirl weren't able to inflict any injuries on him, and he BFR'd Superboy before beginning to torture Supergirl for fun. This is a weakened Darkseid.
- [Post-Crisis] The Who's Who in the DC Universe comic run used Darkseid as a benchmark for hyping Time Trapper, saying that Time Trapper was great enough to be considered a peer to Darkseid. This issue came out in '87 and is referring to the real Time Trapper, not the weaker Controller minion, as seen in the bottom section.
- [Post-Crisis] His anger scared the combined Lords of Chaos (Obviously, this is from the same run where Desaad was later revealed to have impersonated Darkseid during the fight with the two Fates, but there is nothing indicating the Darkseid manipulating the Lords of Order and Chaos was a fake)
- [Post-Crisis] Highfather said he could destroy Takio, who also admitted that Darkseid and Highfather are more powerful than he is. I've made a profile for Takio, but the short of it is the post-issue letters outright state that Parallax can fire universe-shattering blasts, and that Takion is more powerful than Parallax, who casually defeated Time Trapper. This is completely in line with the above scaling: Darkseid > Takion > Parallax > Time Trapper. Takion is described by an official guide entry as a being of "limitless power" and it's shown that Captain Atom's quantum field, the power of will, and the Speed Force are only aspects of the Source power Takion wields.
It should be noted somewhere that Post-Flashpoint Darkseid was amped in Darkseid War so people don't think everyone and their mother, like Aquama, scale to Anti-Monitor. Darkseid was stated by Mr. Miracle to have gotten a powerup pre-Darkseid War. And it wasn't the Mobius Chamber energies, that was in order to return himself to normal power after he got space collapsed on him at the end of Justice League: Origin.
Powers and Abilities
Almost none of Darkseid's Powers and Abilities have scans proving they're legit, and I also think Existence Erasure is better to use than Void Manipulation regarding the Omega Beams. They are literally described as existence erasure in the comics.
Also, Post-Flashpoint Darkseid has displayed very little of the versatility Pre-Flashpoint Darkseid did, and considering he is explicitly a fragment and not even a normal emanation, I don't think he should automatically receive the full moveset the latter had. In fact, the updated DC character book for the New 52 omits any mention of old guidebooks regarding Darkseid's Omega Beams being capable of disintegrating, transporting, and resurrecting their target. I've created a separate tabber for Post-Flashpoint abilities and updated his sections.
Here's the list:
Powers (Pre-FP)
Superhuman Physical Characteristics
Genius Intelligence
Martial Arts (Comparable to Orion in martial skill)
Immortality (Type 1; Type 4 - After truly dying, Darkseid resurrected himself from Orion's body; Type 8 - Returned to life after being destroyed by the Spectre, as he is necessary for existence; Type 9 - the true Darkseid exists in a higher-dimensional plane)
Self-Sustenance (Type 1)
Large Size (Type 6 - New Gods are so large that the Earth is a speck to them).
- Before anyone says it, yes Supergirl (Matrix) was obviously far larger than she should have been when she went to Apokolips. Thing is, the comic itself isn't valid counter-evidence against Type 6. Granny's remark, taking her condescending personality into account, makes it clear that Supergirl's size was still adjusted to an unknown amount when she used her own power to cross dimensions.
Extrasensory Perception (Can see invisible beings and detect souls)
Portal Creation and Dimensional Travel (Can open boom tubes at will)
Intangible Homing Attack (Omega Beams seek out their target and can pass through physical barriers)
Existence Erasure and Durability Negation (Omega Beams can erase their target from existence, making it so they never were)
BFR via boom tubes and the Omega Effect (Can banish other by opening boom tubes on them or by teleporting them through space and time with his Omega Beams)
Energy Manipulation and Matter Manipulation (Dissipated Wildfire's energy form in quanta; Can fire energy blasts tuned to his target's molecular structure to inflict the most damage)
Petrification (Turned Slo-bo to stone)
Transmutation (Changed Miracle Mister Soap to mud)
Soul Manipulation (Shattered souls using the Omega Effect)
Energy Absorption (Can absorb energy on a planetary scale)
Forcefield Creation (Can create Omega-energy barriers)
Teleportation (Can use Omega Beams to teleport himself as well as others)
Non-Physical Interaction (Pulled Professor Stein out of the Firestorm Matrix; Used Omega Beams to knock back Secret, who was intangible)
Life Manipulation (Used Omega Beams to trap Cyborg Superman's life force in a metal sphere; Animated a giant statue while trapped in the Source Wall)
Resurrection (Raised a massive army of Parademons from the dead; Resurrected Desaad after disintegrating him)
Paralysis Inducement and Information Analysis (Paralyzed Infinity Man and probed for his weakness)
Aura (Can enhance physical attacks by cloaking himself in energy)
Healing (Healed Orion from losing half his body)
Duplication (Can create avatars from his energy while his main body is busy, such as when he was trapped in the Source Wall)
Astral Projection (Can create images of his head that he can project his Omega Beams through)
Power Bestowal (Imbued a baby with some of his power to create Validus; Granted some of his Omega Effect to Bedlam)
Power Nullification (Removed Bouncing Boy's power)
Magic (Can manipulate magic energy, shown when he contained Black Mary Marvel's power)
Size Manipulation (Can adjust his size at will)
Spatial Manipulation (Warped the path of Vykin's boom tube by will; His punch cracked the fabric of the dimension he was i)
Time Manipulation (Bent time using the Omega Effect to accelerate the growth of Desaad's new body)
Time Stop (Froze Godwave Ares by hardening both time and space around him)
Time Travel (Orion stated he can easily move through time)
Illusion Creation (Made illusions for Superman and Wonder Woman to fight; they were fooled until Darkseid gave himself away)
Creation (Used his energy to create the opposite of Takio, Stayne; Can recreate his followers from inanimate objects)
Telekinesis (Restrained Superman and Infinity Man in the air)
Telepathy (Can drain information from minds and read them in an instant)
Mind Manipulation (Simultaneously controlled three billion Pre-Crisis Daxamites)
Empathic Manipulation (Reversed the effects of a feeling-altering soap)
Pain Manipulation (Can use the Omega Effect to cause pai, such as with Pre-Crisis Supergirl)
Biological Manipulation (Deformed Dream Girl and short-circuited the League's brain impulses)
Corruption (His clone servants were corrupted by his power)
Heat Manipulation (Incinerated Kalibak's flesh by touching him)
Weather Manipulation (Created a tornado and storm)
Summoning (Can summon forces from Apokolips at will; can also summon distant targets using Omega Beams)
Technology Manipulation (His Omega powers can tamper with advanced technology)
Resistances (Pre-FP)
Existence Erasure (Stated that his body resists the effects of his Omega power and no-sold Lex Luthor's weapon that rips apart existence)
Sealing (Removed bindings created by the Alpha Effect)
Telepathy (Resisted being telepathically scanned; Martian Manhunter stated New Gods are hard to touch telepathically)
Mind Manipulation (The strongest minds were ravaged just from seeing the Omega Effect, while Darkseid was able to immerse himself in and absorb all of it)
Empathic Manipulation (Was immune to Bekka's love inducement)
Fear Manipulation (Was immune to Desaad's fear-inducing machine)
Possession (Stated that Eclipso's possession wouldn't work on him)
Electricity Manipulation (Black Mary Marvel's magic lightning had no effect on him)
Ice Manipulation (Was unaffected by Superman's freeze breath)
Extreme Cold and Cosmic Radiation (Can fly in space unharmed)
Powers (Post-FP)
Superhuman Physical Characteristics
Genius Intelligence
Extrasensory Perception (Has 18 divine senses; Sensed Constantine's mind from another dimension despite his cloaking spells)
Immortality (Type 1)
Flight
Energy Projection (Can fire Omega Beams from his eyes and energy blasts from his hands)
Homing Attack (Omega Beams track their target)
Telepathy (Invaded Constantine's mind)
Portal Creation and Dimensional Travel (Can summon boom tubes; Physically pushed through a dimensional barrier Constantine had trouble crossing)
BFR (Boom tubes can be used to banish targets)
Summoning (Can use boom tubes to access the forces of Apokolips)
Regenerationn (Low-Mid - Regenerated his destroyed eyes)
Size Manipulation (Can grow immensely large)
Energy Absorption (Gained power by absorbing the powers of Old Gods)
Life Force Absorption (Absorbed life force from Wonder Woma and returned to adulthood by absorbing all of Zeus' life force)
Gravity Manipulation and Space-Time Manipulation (Can generate a gravitational pull so strong that space is twisted and time is stretched, so days pass with each second; Physically opened a hole in space)
Technology Manipulation (Began taking control of Mr. Terrific's boom spheres with his will)
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 - Captured the Black Racer and learned to summon and direct it)
Illusion Creation (Disguised himself as an alien medic)
Dream Manipulation (Invaded Grail's dreams)
Resistances (Post-FP)
Disease Manipulation (New God physiology makes them immune to disease)
Spatial Manipulation (No-sold the spatial rending caused by boom spheres and survived the collapse of a boom tube around him which caused fractures in the universal fabric, though he needed to recuperate in the Mobius Chamber afterward)
Antimatter Manipulation (Unaffected by the matter-destroying properties of antimatter)
Electricity Manipulation (Was unaffected by Zeus' lightning)
Powers (Godhead)
All previous abilities to a much greater degree, plus
Self-Sustenance (Types 2 and 3)
Non-Corporeal
Higher-Dimensional Existence
Large Size (Type 10 - Large enough to fall over the entire multiverse)
Reality Warping (His presence on Earth caused life to turn darker, time to become distorted, and the sky to rain blood)
Black Hole Creation (Created a personal singularity where all was one with him)
Absolute Mind Manipulation (Used the Anti-Life Equation to take complete control of all living beings who had heard the Equation broadcasted)
Creation (Can recreate other New Gods as emanations of his will)
Possession (Incarnated on Earth by possessing the body of Dan Turpi, a process that involved eating his consciousness from withi as well as eating his soul)
Pocket Reality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation and Death Manipulation (The Omega Sanctio allows him to trap his target in a never-ending series of created realities in which they are fated to die in more and more horrible ways)
Other problems with the profile
- His current render is unbefitting of his dignity. I made two of them from some of the best candidate images I found in all his appearances: Option 1 | Option 2
- The AP justification for Godhead Darkseid is redundant and had a grammatical error. I've trimmed it down.
- The Cinque of Power Darkseid participated in was not a match for the Anti-Life Entity. Furthermore, Darkseid's encounter with the two Doctor Fates was shown later to be Desaad impersonating Darkseid. Not only that but one of the Fates (Eric) was literally dying at the time and was so weak that Parademons easily overwhelmed him. And it wasn't clear that either of them scaled to Kent in the first place, because there were repeated mentions of how new and inexperienced they were compared to Kent/Nabu. Neither scan deserves mentioning since even in the Post-Crisis period Darkseid has better scaling.
- The speed justification for his Pre-Flashpoint emanation should mention the fact that he has flown from Apokolips/New Genesis to the Source Wall on more than one occasion, in moments. One instance has been evaluated and accepted by three calc group members here, and gives a result of 52 quintillion times light speed.
- The scan for Post Flashpoint Darkseid's striking strength is an image of an energy shock wave. I got rid of that.
- Darkseid has some of the best intelligence feats in DC but his Intelligence section is very barebones. I've fleshed it out with scans and explanations, because Darkseid is a legit supergenius who easily rivals the best minds in Marvel and DC.
- Boom tubes don't fall under equipment for Darkseid, he can create them under his own power.
- His Weakness section should remove the mention of overconfidence. I'm pretty sure it was added solely due to the widespread notion of "jobbing", which isn't proper grounds for an official weakness and isn't even valid to begin with.
- His Notable Attacks/Techniques section seems like it was mainly copied from the DC wiki, because a ton of entries aren't even attacks or techniques. I've updated that and his Feats section to be a bit more comprehensive and non-copying.
This is a full profile overhaul: a non-goofy render, proper terminology (emanations, not avatars), removal of the incorrect divide between Pre- and Post-Crisis, all the missing abilities (with a separate tabber for Post-Flashpoint since he's not as versatile), updated stat justifications and an actual speed value, an updated intelligence section, removal of a bogus weakness, the works.
