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Sounds right though it could be At least 9-A if he's really superior to Parademons maybe ?
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DC Animated Movies Darkseid Downgrade
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AgreedArkhamDC06 said:
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Ok. Then Zoom/Reverse-Flash's tier will be At least 9-A to. Now there is only speed that needs to be calculated.
Also, what would be the tier of regular Amazons ?
Also, what would be the tier of regular Amazons ?
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Weren't they somewhat comparable to Atlantians which fought Deathstroke in Flashpoint Paradox? Maybe 9-B, possibly 9-A.ArkhamDC06 said:
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They're slightly stronger than them if i remember correctly. Wich should put them on that tier or maybe "At least 9-B, possibly 9-A" since they're stronger than Batman.
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So what about Flash's speed and Darkseid's feat calculation ?
If it helps, i remember that WW was able to knock Beast Boy turned into an elephant uncounscious with one punch only.
If it helps, i remember that WW was able to knock Beast Boy turned into an elephant uncounscious with one punch only.
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Flash's speed should have two tiers. Him going all out and him casually out running lightning in the beginning of JLvsTT.
As for WW and Aquaman I think the only difference between their normal self and Flashpoint is the willingness to kill their enemies.
As for WW and Aquaman I think the only difference between their normal self and Flashpoint is the willingness to kill their enemies.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Dc_Animated_Movies:_Darkseid_destroy_somethingArkhamDC06 said:
I can't find the scan of Flash jumping on hail and viewing lightning in slow mo.
An elephant's skull can withstand 10,000 pounds of force or 44,500 newtons. Not too impressive.
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The Flash thing is against Weather Wizard at the start of JLvTT. I'll try and make a video for it in a couple hours when I get home.
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Ah, looks like a one that would require ang-sizing. But it does appear to vaporize a large body of water which might be impressive. I do expect Tier 7 results from that one though.
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We probably can't scale Wizard since he was amped, but Superman was in the explosion as well I think, just much further away.
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This was done by Damian with prep right? so new key for Robin?Qawsedf234 said:
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It was with the Batplane. So it scales to Bruce not Damien.
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Also, Damian said it was a 3 kiloton hit, which is Small Town Level, which makes sense since it dwarfed multiple city blocks in seconds.
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If the other feats support the 3 KT th ing that could be used a solid tiering basis.
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Also I just realized, basically anyone possessed by trigon get a massive amp, yet Superman even while weakened from Kryptonite fought an amped WW and Flash.
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Don't know what to think about that actually. As you said, anyone possessed by Trigon becomes stronger but Supes can struggle against them at night while weakened. Throug what i can remember, WW was freed with the Lasso.
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So guys, I was thinking, should we make a page for this verse? For the time being its only in Category. When do you guys suggest we make it?
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After the Darkseid and Superman stuff. Then we'll work on Parademons and the Flash since they scale to a lot of people.
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I remember Batman saying that Superman can lift the moon or something
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Wonder Woman said he could deorbit the moon, but that's at best an outlier statement.
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^^
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I also think it's an outlier, mostly because it sounds liek a way to show how powerful Superman is. Of course he might be able to do it but for now, no.
I agree withe page thing for the verse though we should indeed see for Darkseid and Flash. About him, it will apparently be At least 9-A but his speed still needs to be identified.
I agree withe page thing for the verse though we should indeed see for Darkseid and Flash. About him, it will apparently be At least 9-A but his speed still needs to be identified.
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I think most of Batman's feats are already listed in his profile, so maybe no need to upgrade him much except his Batplane that can cause a 3 kiloton explosion. Flash's looking at lightning in slow mo definitely needs a calc, and Superman's best strength feats were shown in Death Of SupermanHellbeast1 said:
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Ah ok
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In any case, I put up the Flash calc for evaluation, should get the calcs within a few days.
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Batman will need an upgrade via gadgets i think. But i don't remember a batplane feat.
Good to know for Flash. Will it change the fact that he seems to be At least 9-A or will this calc only affect his speed and not his tier ?
Good to know for Flash. Will it change the fact that he seems to be At least 9-A or will this calc only affect his speed and not his tier ?
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Only his speed. Unless Flash causes environmental destruction with his speed he cannot get a KE figure. He also hasn't hurt any of the stronger people with his punches to my knowledge.
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He's hurt Darkseid but I think that's it
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Yeah, he managed to hurt him or at least barely but i kind of remember it was after one of his eyes were pierced (at maybe both) because no one was able to really harm him before that.
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I just remember him staggering Darkseid, which isn't a scalable feat.
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Staggering is basically what everyone managed to do (except piercing his eyes). He was more annoyed than really hurt until he got his eyes pierced. Individually nobody (save for Superman who managed to harm him) was able to inflict true damages (Shazam was able to hurt him to some extent but not on the same level). Also, Darkseid was able to dodge one of Flash's attack and punched him so hard he threw him against a car that exploded.
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The car thing is fine, but staggering just isn't something you can scale to.
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Know that. For WW, she was able to tank a punch from Darkseid without being that much harmed.
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Yeah she took a beat down if I remember correctly
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More precisely, she jumped on Darkseid's back and then he punched her several meters away. She took a beatdown anyway before that.
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I made a calc for the Flashpoint explosion feat here. The low end is just over 3 kilotons, which is consistent with the Robin nuke statement and possible JLvTT scaling.
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