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Didn’t Beerus say that because Vegeta had already used SSB, he could only use less than 10% of its power when he transformed again?
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I linked the scan when I replied to Null, not repeating myself, go look for it. Goku said Vegeta might've won if he didn't turn SS against Cabba, which caused his stamina to deplet.How did Goku not do better against Hit than Vegeta? Also, how would Vegeta not turning SSJ against Cabba change the result of the fight?
Yeah, the thread used anime-only scans and then showed these movie pamphlets to say: "This line is in reference to these pamphlets". It wasn't intended for the manga at all.The thread used this scan
"A Super Saiyan variant of Super Saiyan God" =/= "SSJ+SSG".
Yes?Didn’t Beerus say that because Vegeta had already used SSB, he could only use less than 10% of its power when he transformed again?
Let's do some reading.The profile also just mentions Goku being stronger than Blue Vegeta not that SSJB is 10x SSJG.
SSB is not 50x SSG.
Big Bang Attack is Low 2-C. It's literally in the name, it's a Big Bang.I retract my previous agreement.
Ssb being only 10x ssg makes no sense.
and did people forget that ssb is literally super saiyan...ya know, the 50x multiplier...onto of super saiyan god? It's literally in the name, super saiyan god super saiyan.
Well big bang attack is indeed 2-C now....so what's even your point?Big Bang Attack is Low 2-C. It's literally in the name, it's a Big Bang.
It's already accepted anyway, go and make a thread for it, idc
Brother in christ, if you're so butthurt about the current standards GO MAKE A CRT FOR IT.
**** me, man. Sorry, I will upgrade ANDROID SAGA VEGETA to Low 2-C immediately because of the name. You're right.Well big bang attack is indeed 2-C now....so what's even your point?
Yes, because big bang attack is obviously like SSGSS.**** me, man. Sorry, I will upgrade ANDROID SAGA VEGETA to Low 2-C immediately because of the name. You're right.
It's Name Fallacy, the fact the name is "SSGSS" is meaningless for the debate..
Prove it. We're not using an upgrade based on how the form was named. Virtually all manga descriptions of SSB describe it to be "SS but with God Ki".Super saiyan god super saiyan is literally transforming into super saiyan god...and then using super saiyan onto of it. It's in the name, it's how it works. It's not that hard..
Stop using NAMING as an argument, ffs.Yes, because big bang attack is obviously like SSGSS.
I mean...SSGSS is not super saiyan god..with super saiyan ontop of it right? Right?
What are you even talking about dude, you’re the one making the crt to change things.Brother in christ, if you're so butthurt about the current standards GO MAKE A CRT FOR IT.
Leave this one, and upgrade Manga SSB to 50x
Tell me how does super saiyan god super saiyan work? is ssgss super saiyan god with kyubi cloak bankai gear 5 ontop of it? Or it's super saiyan god with spartan rage L3+R3 plus O above your head ontop of it?Prove it. We're not using an upgrade based on how the form was named. Virtually all manga descriptions of SSB describe it to be "SS but with God Ki".
Stop using NAMING as an argument, ffs.
The current accepted multiplier for SSB in the manga is 10x, I'm not changing anything.What are you even talking about dude, you’re the one making the crt to change things.
I explain on the very first sentence of my reply. Have you tried reading or is that too hard for you?Tell me how does super saiyan god super saiyan work? is ssgss super saiyan god with kyubi cloak bankai gear 5 ontop of it? Or it's super saiyan god with spartan rage L3+R3 plus O above your head ontop of it?
I explain on the very first sentence of my reply. Have you tried reading or is that too hard for you?
I also asked you one simple question. Is your one cell organism of a brain Incapable of doing a simple task as being polite and answering questions. DB fans can't read...but you..you can't even comprehend.I explain on the very first sentence of my reply. Have you tried reading or is that too hard for you?
This makes no sense.
"A Super Saiyan variant of Super Saiyan God" =/= "SSJ+SSG".
Literally, just SS with God Ki, as the movie clarified.
SSB is not 50x SSG.
Jesus ******* christ, I'm not entertaining this circus anymore. I'll wait for Staff to evaluate this.
For now, I've got @Damage3245's agreement.
It is, so these guys just need to do their own thread really, I'm not changing my speed scaling unless 50x is officially accepted.If the current accepted multiplier for SSB in the manga is 10x then this thread is okay and another CRT needs to be made of it is to be ungraded, if the current accepted multiplier is 50x then likewise a CRT needs to be made. However.......
The manga seems to imply so, and we'd have to either believe Goku was astronomically stronger than Vegeta, which isn't implied in their performances prior to hit and all their sparring matches leading up to the tournament, or accept that SS might not give the same boost to the god power as it does for a regular base saiyan.Unless you're saying the SSG or super Saiyan transformation gives a different boost when they use SSB?
My man, this is YOUR crt, you can’t just say “Nah not listening” when people disagree, or you won’t get it accepted.Jesus ******* christ, I'm not entertaining this circus anymore. I'll wait for Staff to evaluate this.
Buddy, the people here are having a problem with something that's CURRENTLY ACCEPTED IN THE PROFILES, it has NOTHING to do with my CRT or the changes I'm proposing.My man, this is YOUR crt, you can’t just say “Nah not listening” when people disagree, or you won’t get it accepted.
I still maintain you haven't proven your claim that the statement caps SSB at 10x SSG.SSB is not 50x SSG.
I explained that lines specifying data, such as percentages or specific quantities usually use the closest round number, which are 0s and 5s. When they're not being specific.I still maintain you haven't proven your claim that the statement caps SSB at 10x SSG.
I don't think that "couldn't even use 10%" means "the power he used is closer to 10% than 5%." All that inherently means is "He didn't even use a statistically signifcant portion of his power. That simple. it's no anti feat for the SSB multiplier.I explained that lines specifying data, such as percentages or specific quantities usually use the closest round number, which are 0s and 5s.
Agree to Disagree. Specifying percentages should mean a similar output to the number specified, but not actually reaching it; Occam's Razor.I don't think that "couldn't even use 10%" means "the power he used is closer to 10% than 5%." All that inherently means is "He didn't even use a statistically signifcant portion of his power. That simple. it's no anti feat for the SSB multiplier.
That's just not what Occam's razor does.Agree to Disagree. Specifying percentages should mean a similar output to the number specified, but not actually reaching it; Occam's Razor.
It really isn't assumptive at all. In fact, it's logical that "He can't unleash even 5% of his power" would be the line used if Vegeta were to be below that.That's just not what Occam's razor does.
(I'll just move the response here)
Your reasoning is just flawed cause it presupposes he would've said "he isn't even using 5% of his power" if SSB was 50x SSG, when that's just not provable, and more assumptive than taking SSB as SSG x SSJ
BTW this has superhero arc scaling in it to help
Looks fine, for now.
I overall agree that the new blog looks more fleshed out, has the references and so on. However I am not knowledgeable regarding DBS manga scaling though most of the stuff looks fine, it's clear there is some issue in regards to the ss blue multiplier scaling that should be discussed on a new thread. Even if the new blog is accepted, you guys can literally create a new thread right after this to clear up that issue.
So while I do accept the new blog being more fleshed out than the previous one, I think before it's implemented (profiles are changed), a new thread be created to clear up the multiplier issue and then if 10 is decided we upgate the profiles, but if 50 id accepted the new blog gets updated using the 50x multiplier.
That was recommended by an AdminThere was no need in being forced to make that thread imo, 10x is currently accepted, anyone who has a problem with it should make a CRT, that's the entire point of CRTs. Anyway at least now, whatever is accepted becomes set in stone for the foreseeable future
What?I just have one issue, why does SSG Goku scale above Moro arc Piccolo's feat? Never really saw how the last thread concluded
I thought SSG was given a multiplier above that which dbz ssj Vegito gave? Or was z Goku - SSG Goku > z Goku to ssj Vegito anime only?What?
Z Goku's Base form is 1080c, his SS forms would scale to 54000c via multiplier.
SS God Goku scales "far higher than 54000c" because we don't have a multiplier for it