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That's anime, Goku never says this in the mangaI thought SSG was given a multiplier above that which dbz ssj Vegito gave? Or was z Goku - SSG Goku > z Goku to ssj Vegito anime only?
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That's anime, Goku never says this in the mangaI thought SSG was given a multiplier above that which dbz ssj Vegito gave? Or was z Goku - SSG Goku > z Goku to ssj Vegito anime only?
The entire reason for the Piccolo calc in the original blog was to continue the multiplier scaling, any value over 1080c would require feats to back it upWhat?
Z Goku's Base form is 1080c, his SS forms would scale to 54000c via multiplier.
SS God Goku scales "far higher than 54000c" because we don't have a multiplier for it
The Ship feat and the Moro Arc piccolo feat does support it, you don't have to scale to these feats initially, they just prove the verse can consistently go over 1080cThe entire reason for the Piccolo calc in the original blog was to continue the multiplier scaling, any value over 1080c would require feats to back it up
Okay, I assumed this was enough to show that SSG>ssj vegito, but alrightThat's anime, Goku never says this in the manga
Agreee
INTRODUCTION
Welcome. This is a revision thread looking to change the current outdated speed scaling blog to the one I did. This new blog has all the chapters as references supporting the scaling, as well as explanations why each characters scale to what value. It also updates to the currently accepted Super Saiyan Blue's multiplier, which is a 10x increase over Super Saiyan God, as opposed to the anime's 50x increase. I will now introduce you to the main changes in scaling.
MAIN CHANGESThat's about it.
- The top speed is greatly reduced: The peak speed non-GoD characters can reach is reduced from 16.9 quadrillion times faster than light to the far more modest 67.5 trillion times faster than light. This is a result of the much more modest Blue form multiplier and some scaling adjustments.
- Vegeta no longer scales to Frieza's ship: This only complicates scaling for no reason, scaling Base Vegeta above characters like Jiren, for example.
- Moro Arc Piccolo is no longer scaled to U6 Arc Piccolo: Uh, Piccolo never needed this, he already scales to Super Saiyan Goku's casual speed for keeping up with Frost.
- Broly's scaling is greatly reduced: The manga no longer takes the movie scaling into account, although the events that have no reason to change will still be referenced, Broly's Base form does not need Ikari to scale to God forms.
The old blog uses outdated multipliers and incorrect scaling. Newer blog is more organized and explains every scaling well.
CONCLUSION
The old blog wanks the speed quite a bit. Newer blog is more modest, and takes low ends into account.
Newer blog is also consistent with the accepted feats.
VOTING
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
I mean, if that SSG was weaker than his dbz fusion level, there won't be able possibilities in terms of power that he would think of reaching at that point with SSGSeems more personal to himself.
Who is that man?man cooked.
You dudeWho is that man?
Anyway, I'm updating this since we got a 50x multiplier
I'm not a man.You dude
Oops. Sorry about that. Well, you still cooked. Well doneI'm not a man.
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Anyways, what about the Super hero arc given it ended?
The implication being SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten scaling to MUI Goku and UE Vegeta? Since they harmed Cell Max, which should be strongerAnyways, what about the Super hero arc given it ended?
Also this scaling blog has scaling for the manga Super hero arc
Definitely not MUI Goku or UE Vegeta. We don't know if Piccolo and the others are even aware of their current power from the Granolah arc.The implication being SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten scaling to MUI Goku and UE Vegeta? Since they harmed Cell Max, which should be stronger
Nah, the Gama's in the manga are at least comparable to end of Moro arc Goku and Vegeta as everyone haven't seen them sense the start of the granolah arc + cell max in the manga was growing stronger over time as it was adjusting to being awakenedThe implication being SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten scaling to MUI Goku and UE Vegeta? Since they harmed Cell Max, which should be stronger
Definitely not MUI Goku or UE Vegeta. We don't know if Piccolo and the others are even aware of their current power from the Granolah arc.
Pretty sure Piccolo was stated to be on par with Goku and Vegeta by Toyotaro or Toriyama, which would include their current versionsNah, the Gama's in the manga are at least comparable to end of Moro arc Goku and Vegeta as everyone haven't seen them sense the start of the granolah arc + cell max in the manga was growing stronger over time as it was adjusting to being awakened
Would need the context to know for sure.Pretty sure Piccolo was stated to be on par with Goku and Vegeta by Toyotaro or Toriyama, which would include their current versions
Anyway, I've updated the... the thingy, are we good to go?Would need the context to know for sure.
only Toriyama stated it, and that's for the movie. Toriyama doesn't think about the manga events exactly when working on the movie.Would need the context to know for sure.
That statement was when the movie came out, way before the manga version had startedPretty sure Piccolo was stated to be on par with Goku and Vegeta by Toyotaro or Toriyama, which would include their current versions
Does the speed blog include the Super hero arc given that arc ended (should add superhero arc keys to the manga characters as well)Me when I manage to actually conclude the CRTs I make:
Now seriously, is there anything left to be done here?
If they don't multiply the values themselves in any kind, I don't think I should add it, it wouldn't be of much use.Does the speed blog include the Super hero arc given that arc ended (should add superhero arc keys to the manga characters as well)
I mean it's there for scaling purposes (also because Goten and Trunks from the Super Manga could get a profile via having new powers they only have in the manga like air Manipulation)If they don't multiply the values themselves in any kind, I don't think I should add it, it wouldn't be of much use.
Lmao, irrelevant but that face seriously describes me right now in my life. May I ask where’s that from?Me when I manage to actually conclude the CRTs I make:
Now seriously, is there anything left to be done here?
Eh, unnecessary. In fact, most of Granolah arc scaling is unnecessary in my blog. I'll apply it as it is, Goten and Trunks can have their speed ratings justified in the future.I mean it's there for scaling purposes (also because Goten and Trunks from the Super Manga could get a profile via having new powers they only have in the manga like air Manipulation)
Could you please ping Medeus? I think they haven't voted yetWould need the context to know for sure.
Did you comment on the wrong thread, chief?This topic seems very strange
No, just speed scaling is very confusing to me.Did you comment on the wrong thread, chief?
Whats confusing about the scaling?No, just speed scaling is very confusing to me.
There are some minor things i noticed that doesn't have relevance to speed scalling, but Goku Black was using the regular Super Saiyan. Also, the "ten times" entries for SSB's values explanations needs to be changed to fifty. Other than that, i think everything is ok