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According to this video, light cannot escape from it. And goku's IT didn't work.
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DBS Goku's strongest challenger yet
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According to this video, light cannot escape from it. And goku's IT didn't work.
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IT has nothing to do with this.
Goku's Kamehameha literally tears the attack apart, and the light from the attack also goes through the Black Hole from the inside just before the attack is shattered
You also still didn't addressed the issue of the Pretty Black Hole not exerting Gravitational pull OUTSIDE of the black hole
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Going with the Egg Salamander via Spatial Slicing due to Goku lacking Resistance
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Egg Salamander FRA
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Remove the grace from the title.
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Goku's kamehameha penetrated through the blackhole because it was stronger than the black hole. And kamehameha is not light, it is ki/life energy.
And IT can make goku travel to different dimensions like the afterlife, so it does matter.
And goku literally said that it is very heavy and can sink through the earth ( don't know if they are talking about the plant or just the ground).
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I said Light from the Kamehameha, not that the Kamehameha IS light. Don't put words in my mouth
Saying it's really heavy doesn't mean much since we got many places that have high gravity like Bulma's gravity chamber.
Sinking through the ground isn't exclusive to Black Holes either, and you can't shatter an Event Horizon with just brute force since it isn't a physical thing
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The video actually doesn't really call it a black hole so, may be it is a structure resembling a black hole or the writers just doesn't know how black holes work.
Anyway, if spatial slicing is his first move, then goku loses.
Otherwise i am keeping my vote for goku.
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Was about to vote for Goku, till I read the thread
Does Goku one shot? If he doesn’t than it wouldn’t matter if spatial slicing isn’t the first move.
Does Goku one shot? If he doesn’t than it wouldn’t matter if spatial slicing isn’t the first move.
huh. Voting for Egg Salamander
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Goku doesn't one shot though. Both scale to Half 2-C
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Ok. So both have the same AP. So, what is goku's wincon then? He doesn't hzve any hax to kill salamander.
This seems like a stomp.
This seems like a stomp.
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He can kill Salamander via AP. He doesn't resist that
He also got Instictive Reactions to dodge regular attacks
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According to Goku’s votes he’d eventually be able to overpower the Salamander via his Reactive Power level
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Does the salamander start with spatial slice? cuz Goku could overpower before then but idk
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No he can't kill him with AP since they both are comparable to each other. You need to be at least 7.5x stronger in order to one shot. So, no goku has no wincons.
It will just delay the inevitable.
Goku has no hax to put down his opponent.
Since this is anime goku, hakai is not an option
So, egg salamander stomps goku.
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They’d initially have comparable AP so no he wouldn’t. Eggman would just use it when he notices he can’t kill Goku through sheer force
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alright
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RPL only works when an opponent is stronger thsn goku. I have never seen RPL happening when goku fights someone equal or weaker than him.
So nope, it is still a stomp for salamander.
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He's RPL only works by getting hurt and than healing and getting stronger
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no? he also gets stronger mid battle. literally common knowledge
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Actually, 7.5 times is what needed to stomp the opponents. Goku can definitely kill beings with relatively similar AP, especially since Egg Salamander doesn't have Stonewall durability
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Guys, goku has no wincons. RPL only works when an opponent is stronger than goku, which is not the case here. Zenkai boost is not a wincon. The best goku can do here is that he can fight salamander for a while and then get haxstomped. So no, goku has no wincons
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That's zenkai not RPL
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It just means that goku will be able to go toe to toe with him but not kill him since he doesn't have any attack powerful enough. So, no AP is not a wincon here. RPL and zenkai boost are not wincons too as I explained above.
This is a stomp.
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Goku actually scale above Beerus' feat, so he does have somwhat of an AP advantage,
but not enough to stomp him
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That's RPL it's how saiyans get stronger. Battle get hurt than heal get stronger
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A few those involved them getting hurt or knockdown than healing and getting stronger. I'll leave this for another thread tho.
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Still keeping my vote to Goku since he is bloodlusted & he is >>> Half 2-C characters like belmod
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They’ll initially fight toe-to-toe with Goku having the advantage with his instinctive reactions and RPL, until Eggman gets frustrated and uses Spatial Slicing.
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Yeah it's clear UI Goku would adapt to Egg Salamander, but the Eggman would realize they can't hit Goku and use Spatial Cutting to end him
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How does he counteract the Egg Salamander’s Spatial Manipulation? Your vote didn’t really address that at all
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