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Yeah I'm with you here. Unless the form itself showed planetary lifting strength or Goku physically moved the planet he doesn't scale to the Earth's weight in my view.stopping a hand not even the size of a building is not enough to warrant him scaling to the entire mass of the planet
Yeh, Goku just physically overpowered Moro hand, which has like, Car/Truck size?Yeah I'm with you here. Unless the form itself showed planetary lifting strength or Goku physically moved the planet he doesn't scale to the Earth's weight in my view.
I already responded to this but it's fine I'll say it again, Moro scales to his own lifting strength which is class Y as the whole planet, but why do his hands scale to his full lifting strength? It's because Moro was using his full power when fighting Goku which means he's using his full lifting strength too, we know this because Moro didn't get any stronger or weaker after fusing with the earth yet was still fighting Goku at full power as a tiny mountain and hands, if he wasn't using his full lifting strength like you said then he would be significantly weaker since he's only using a small part of his body but that wasn't true. And regardless Goku overpowered Moro's mountain body as an avatar, if moro was getting overpowered and was about to die, and his ki was powerful enough to support the weight of the planet then how in the hell would he not use his class Y LS to beat Goku?I disagree with this CRT, sure, Moro becomes earth itself, but Goku just overpowered his HAND, does it means that if someone lift some part of earth like a bunch of sand means that they can lift the entire Earth just because Sand is part of the earth?
I thought so too. What gives?Also I thought Characters can't scale their LS to their own weight anymore? Wouldn't that mean Moro shouldn't have Class Y
I guess if this is true, then moro himself cannot be scaled to class Y. I am disappointed, I failed again.This is just a misunderstanding of this type of LS, this one is not scaled to the whole body equally, is scaled to it entirely only, is even iffy if he has it, moro does not scale to class Y, his entire body has Class Y all over himself due to his size and mass.
His hand being the size of a truck means it's mass and size is immensely smaller than earth's, so he only scales to a minuscule fraction of it, that fraction being the difference between a truck and the earth, well obviously remembering his base LS because of the building feat
Like it makes sense for me but I don't even know how moro's class Y works anymore.I'll be honest with you, if this went through it would've been a cool way of dbz getting LS, via overpowering someone else big.
Hold on I think you should change moro from straight up class Y, to class M, class Y as earth. Because of what the last mlg said.Should I close the thread?
Which was what?
ThisThis is just a misunderstanding of this type of LS, this one is not scaled to the whole body equally, is scaled to it entirely only, is even iffy if he has it, moro does not scale to class Y, his entire body has Class Y all over himself due to his size and mass.
His hand being the size of a truck means it's mass and size is immensely smaller than earth's, so he only scales to a minuscule fraction of it, that fraction being the difference between a truck and the earth, well obviously remembering his base LS because of the building feat
Can you explain why i'm wrong?incredible logic
Wait you’re not kidding?Can you explain why i'm wrong?
No, i'm not kidding. Can you explain why i'm wrong?Wait you’re not kidding?
Can you clarify why being able to blow up planets with energy attacks means they can lift planets?Dragon Ball characters can destroy planets so they should be able to lift planets as well. Characters from the Frieza Saga and everything after that point should have Stellar Lifting Strenght since they can destroy stars.
Can you clarify why being able to blow up planets with energy attacks means they can lift planets?
Ki blasts have pushing force behind them, and they consistently travel through planets all the way to the planet's core.
Punches, they can destroy planets with punches.Can you clarify why being able to blow up planets with energy attacks means they can lift planets?
I’m aware.Punches, they can destroy planets with punches.
So, you seriously think they can destroy planets but can't lift them...I’m aware.
Striking Strength and Lifting Strength are two entirely separate statistics that don't scale to each other.So, you seriously think they can destroy planets but can't lift them...
You can derive Attack Potency from Lifting Strength feats via Kinetic Energy or Potential Energy but you can’t derive Lifting Strength from blowing up a planet.
Lol, putting ... instead of explaining how this debunks me is an amazing way to debate.
So you're telling me that Goku can't replicate Supes feat using a Kamehameha?You can derive Attack Potency from Lifting Strength feats via Kinetic Energy or Potential Energy but you can’t derive Lifting Strength from blowing up a planet.
You mean can he replicate a Lifting Feat that gives AP via a move that has nothing to do with Lifting Strength? No, he can't.So you're telling me that Goku can't replicate Supes feat using a Kamehameha?
Nope. His Kamehameha would blow up the island.So you're telling me that Goku can't replicate Supes feat using a Kamehameha?
Why would blow it up?Nope. His Kamehameha would blow up the island.
Because he'd be attacking with a beam of energy that can destroy planets.Why would blow it up?