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DBS Class Y lifting strength upgrade
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azontr
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What kind of hypothetical is this? Dude, Lifting Strength and Striking Strength don't scale.
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Dawg, let me make this simple for you.
Someone can be physically stronger than someone else, BUT the person they're stronger than can punch HARDER than the stronger person due to other factors.
Same case for lifting and ap.
lifting/=/ap
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Why would a Planet busting (currently universe busting) attack blow up an island?
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Punches and kicks do not scale for lifting strengh
Vizer04
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What factors?
I mean if Goku doesn't intend to destroy it.
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Force and acceleration etc.
You can have the force and weight behind a punch and punch harder.
For example, say you have a board, you can punch and break through it,
however if you lift it, you cant just break through it by simply lifting it, unless you're really really strong, but with a punch its easier due to the force coming behind a punch, but if you just push it, you cant just break it.
That's why ap/=/ls
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He struggled with weights that a gorilla can lift
Vizer04
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That's an outlier.
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It's still consistent.
azontr
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How so?
Vizer04
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How is that consistent???
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It's consistent
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Can you provide consistent feats of Goku lifting much greater weights?
azontr
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If I can lift my dog does that mean I can destroy him?
Vizer04
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Vizer04
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You can lift a spoon, can you destroy it?
Vizer04
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Now imagine the spoon is a planet.
azontr
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Anybody can lift and destroy a spoon. Comparing that to superhuman fictional characters isn't very smert.
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So you're saying since something like a dog can kill a human, they can lift us now?
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You argued the same exact thing in here and was debunked.
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Some people can't
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The main subject of the thread was class Y for Goku.
This subject was finished, so this thread needs to be closed. Stellar LS can be discussed elsewhere
This subject was finished, so this thread needs to be closed. Stellar LS can be discussed elsewhere
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Vizer04
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Why is that inconsistent?
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There’s zero Stellar Lifting feats in the entire franchise.
azontr
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This. Close the thread.
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I mean, to be fair, Frieza literally did that to Goku, and he opted to just plow through it, after failing to stop it.
Vizer04
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So that means Frieza can lift it.
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azontr
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Sorta seems like just inconsistency on Toriyama's part. Has DB ever been known to be consistent or well-written? lol
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It would be inconsistency if they had better lifting strenght feats, which they don't
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Classic to cell saga yes
azontr
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Dragon Ball: Goku trains by walking around with 200+ pound weights while everyone else can barely lift a fraction of it.
Dragon Ball Z: Goku is forced to be able to work under 6 Tons in the gravity room on his way to Namek.
Dragon Ball Z: Vegeta asks Bulma's father to make a room that will make him 18 tons which is a shock to Dr Brief since Goku was barely doing 6 tons and Vegeta was doing 3 times that amount.
Dragon Ball Z: Vegeta says that 9 tons is too much for Base Trunks..
Dragon Ball Z: Goku Fails to Lift 40 tons in base and needs a transformation to do it, saying that 10 tons on each limb is heavy.
Dragon Ball Super: Vegeta warms up with 9 tons.
Dragon Ball Super: Vegeta can't lift a man who weighs 1000 tons in his super saiyan state.
The Fandom: They're all outliers. Goku can push stars.
It's consistent for them to have trash lifting strength. Toriyama goes out of his way to give them weights for the stuff that they lift.
Like it's as if we're ignoring the several consistent showings of shit lifting strength just to push this narrative that because you can blow stuff up, you can lift it too.
Dragon Ball Z: Goku is forced to be able to work under 6 Tons in the gravity room on his way to Namek.
Dragon Ball Z: Vegeta asks Bulma's father to make a room that will make him 18 tons which is a shock to Dr Brief since Goku was barely doing 6 tons and Vegeta was doing 3 times that amount.
Dragon Ball Z: Vegeta says that 9 tons is too much for Base Trunks..
Dragon Ball Z: Goku Fails to Lift 40 tons in base and needs a transformation to do it, saying that 10 tons on each limb is heavy.
Dragon Ball Super: Vegeta warms up with 9 tons.
Dragon Ball Super: Vegeta can't lift a man who weighs 1000 tons in his super saiyan state.
The Fandom: They're all outliers. Goku can push stars.
It's consistent for them to have trash lifting strength. Toriyama goes out of his way to give them weights for the stuff that they lift.
Like it's as if we're ignoring the several consistent showings of shit lifting strength just to push this narrative that because you can blow stuff up, you can lift it too.
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There's actually quite a **** ton of decent LS feats through OG and Z, though when I say decent, that's it, I don't think anything above Class M, but there's definitely some Class 50, 100 and some K feats. Honestly probably an equal amount per low end (Which is where I guess the "At least [low end], at most [higher end]" ratings would come into play, though obviously Class K feats ain't the insane planetary or above that others keep bringing up but sometimes it be like that.
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