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DBS: 2-C Universe (Accepted)
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How I love brazilian, making jokes with everything, lolY'all got Elizhaa commenting on your thread??
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Yeah with already staff showing their approval this early in the game, there is absolutely no way this isn't going through.
Really hoping this upgrades the Manga's Scaling b/c them eventually getting 2-C period would make my day ngl
Really hoping this upgrades the Manga's Scaling b/c them eventually getting 2-C period would make my day ngl
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Look at the OP
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Why wouldn't it?
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i dont know?
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Yes it applies to BoG
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Yeah, but we should discuss scaling in another thread
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Aight. So here's the AP ratings for the relevant DBS characters.
BoG SSG Goku tier: 3U 2-C
SSG Goku and Beerus's clash was about to destroy the entirety of Universe 7, a 2-C structure containing 3 space-times.
Includes Base-SSB Goku, Base-SSB Vegeta, Base-Golden Frieza, during RoF up until early ToP. Also includes Cabba, Caulifla, Kale, Hit, Frost, Magetta, Botamo, Future Trunks, Goku Black, Zamasu, Fused Zamasu, Base-SSB Vegito, possibly Trio de Danger, various other ToP fighters, Android 17, Pre-DBS:SH Gohan, Pre-DBS:SH Piccolo, Base Broly.
Jiren tier: 6U 2-C (above baseline)
Restrained Jiren is capable of shaking the entire World of Void, something 3 Gods of Destructions clashing at full strength did not do. Two clashing Gods of Destructions are capable of destroying 2 separate macrocosms, each containing 3 separate space-times.
Includes: Jiren, UIO1-3 Goku, PUI Goku, Late-ToP and beyond SSB Goku and Vegeta, Broly Saga Golden Frieza, Kefla, Android 17's barriers and self-destruction, Wrathful-SSFP Broly, SSJ-SSB Gogeta, DBS:SH Gohan, DBS:SH Piccolo, Gamma 1 and Gamma 2, Cell Max, Beerus, all Angels, Grand Priest.
Zen'O Tier: At least 36U 2-C, likely 54U 2-C.
Zen'O is capable of destroying Future Trunks's entire timeline, which contains 12 separate macrocosms each containing 3 space times. Zen'O is likely capable of erasing all of reality at once, which should include the 6 previously erased universe.
Includes: Zen'O, Future Zen'O, Super Shenron.
BoG SSG Goku tier: 3U 2-C
SSG Goku and Beerus's clash was about to destroy the entirety of Universe 7, a 2-C structure containing 3 space-times.
Includes Base-SSB Goku, Base-SSB Vegeta, Base-Golden Frieza, during RoF up until early ToP. Also includes Cabba, Caulifla, Kale, Hit, Frost, Magetta, Botamo, Future Trunks, Goku Black, Zamasu, Fused Zamasu, Base-SSB Vegito, possibly Trio de Danger, various other ToP fighters, Android 17, Pre-DBS:SH Gohan, Pre-DBS:SH Piccolo, Base Broly.
Jiren tier: 6U 2-C (above baseline)
Restrained Jiren is capable of shaking the entire World of Void, something 3 Gods of Destructions clashing at full strength did not do. Two clashing Gods of Destructions are capable of destroying 2 separate macrocosms, each containing 3 separate space-times.
Includes: Jiren, UIO1-3 Goku, PUI Goku, Late-ToP and beyond SSB Goku and Vegeta, Broly Saga Golden Frieza, Kefla, Android 17's barriers and self-destruction, Wrathful-SSFP Broly, SSJ-SSB Gogeta, DBS:SH Gohan, DBS:SH Piccolo, Gamma 1 and Gamma 2, Cell Max, Beerus, all Angels, Grand Priest.
Zen'O Tier: At least 36U 2-C, likely 54U 2-C.
Zen'O is capable of destroying Future Trunks's entire timeline, which contains 12 separate macrocosms each containing 3 space times. Zen'O is likely capable of erasing all of reality at once, which should include the 6 previously erased universe.
Includes: Zen'O, Future Zen'O, Super Shenron.
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No need for all that yet.
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This thread is meant to accept 2-C DBS Macrocosm, not to discuss scaling. That's for the giga crt.
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Ready to be Low-Multiversal and be truly infinite?
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Wouldn’t that be 9 universes since 3 G.o.Ds?
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As much as i agree with this, i still waiting for a cosmology page. Also, game such as Heroes/XV can still be used as supporting evidences which suggest that DB cosmology is composite of Toei and Canon. We used the same argument to explain on why Cell is Solar System level
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It was more about the fact that every piece of Dragon Ball media agrees that Cell can destroy the solar system
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Bro, there are more than 7 guides stating that Cell is a solar system, I have them all here and even a game showing Cell destroying the solar system, besides showing that it can, it needed all of that to be accepted as solar system here ?
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Anilaza also, because he is 2-C also right now
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STOP DISCUSSING SCALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Vietthai96
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Nah, the argument in cells case is to shown consistency accross all media, this one doesn't need that, plus this thread is not for that
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Not necessarily, I think the same logic of 2 low 2-Cs clashing applies here, we don’t know the actual treshold for destruction of separate spacetimes, nor can we decipher it mathematically like one would applying inverse square law
Even if applied theoretically, a spherical object gains 8 times its surface area If you double its radius netting 8x times the energy requirement to destroy two adjacent spherical objects
it could very well require much more than 3 gods for 3 macrocosms to be destroyed at once.
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My God, man, back then it was too complicated to update, I even pity
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People, stop discussing scaling in a COSNOLOGY thread
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i vote incon
anyway i agree
anyway i agree
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The wiki used to be too harsh on dragon ball.
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Honestly while I don't really care one way or the other, wouldn't it be easier to tackle this just like Sonic's thread did and handle both parts [Scaling and Cosmology] simultaneously ? Like, we already did the major agreement when it was accepted that it's a parralel reality, and the only real way this gets debunked is if that does which would require an entirely separate thread, so wouldn't it be better to deal with two birds with one stone here ?
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The Paradise
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Pretty much what Planck said. The Universe being straight up 2-C would just recontextualize the 3-As of DB to be 2-Cs.
Though ngl significantly affecting the Afterlife for Toei SSJ 3 Goku / GT Base Goku is probably Tier 2 now.
Though ngl significantly affecting the Afterlife for Toei SSJ 3 Goku / GT Base Goku is probably Tier 2 now.
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Pretty much I was Finna make an entire crt for this but we could do it in here
Macrocosm is 3 space times
(also for the dbs manga as well all 3-A’s are 2-C)
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At a minimum Zeno'oh should be scaled 36 Universes with this update
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nope, that is not it, it is because of a statement made by the narrador in the anime toei continuity that says that the afterlife is another space time separated from the living world, heaven has nothing to do with it
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well about zeno, he scales to 36 universes via his EE hax, but his durability scales to 3 universes via upscaling from everyone else
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