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Oh, okay then
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Dante vs Hoopa
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So there goes that
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That would be the case if they are summoned first if he even gets the chance. Hoopa dies before any 2A can do shit.
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oh boy we are back to that, how does dante kill hoopa? Can he easily one-shot a character in the same tier? With that character having extremely good stalling abilities i doubt he could even get a hit in before the 2-A’s arrive
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Hoopa also summons multiple legendaries at once so dante has to get through hoopa’s stalling in about 5-10 seconds
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Just a question, how can Hoopa deal with Dante regen?
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Dante's Alastor minor Precog and Danger sense along with prediction and power senses.
He already knows Hoopa is going to summon 2A beings(if he even decides that). That kind of knowledge will make Dante go bloodlust "save the world" mode. Since strongest characters in DMC are 2C.
So he is already serious from the start.
So he just DT amps and rushes for killl,
And even if 2A are summoned, it matters not...since to win this match he needs to kill Hoopa not 2As.
So he gets incapped, but not before victory.
And Dante only needs to scratch Hoopa to win.
He already knows Hoopa is going to summon 2A beings(if he even decides that). That kind of knowledge will make Dante go bloodlust "save the world" mode. Since strongest characters in DMC are 2C.
So he is already serious from the start.
So he just DT amps and rushes for killl,
And even if 2A are summoned, it matters not...since to win this match he needs to kill Hoopa not 2As.
So he gets incapped, but not before victory.
And Dante only needs to scratch Hoopa to win.
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He doesnt, the 2-A’s attack him constantly which would be considered incap, dante wouldnt be able to escape the 2-A’s beams even with intangiblility since they only last for about 3 seconds
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What stops hoopa from teleporting away to stall for another 5 seconds? His precog wouldnt help with the ring teleporting, by the time hoopa is out of the portal, the 2-A’s are already incapping dante since they have infinite speed
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Would he even do that?
Keweed stated he starts with physicals attacks or portal shenanigans.
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There's still a question of if he even summons 2A.
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Yeah to avoid a single attack, he then would just try to hyper beam the guy which wouldnt matter because he would already be in the 2-A’s beams
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He summons multiple legendaries, at least one of them would be summoned at a time
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He just needs small opportunity to scratch Hoopa. And he dies.
He can dodge, and his intang even if lasts 3 hits helps him extend his freedom.
He can use Doppelganger to run interference on top.
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Why would hoopa die from a single hit? Aren't they in the same tier? How would he even scratch hoopa? Can he fly? Cause hoopa can, is he fast enough to hit a teleporting, flying target in 10 seconds? Unbound hoopa's speed is infinite so he wouldn't be able to hit him in 10 seconds let alone the entire fight, also the 2-A's speed is infinite so they catch him easily
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The speed is equalized
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CM1 and Soul hax. Also he has scaling chain in High3A.
Nightmare <<<Nelo=<Dante. And he can amp further with DT, which one shot his base self .
Closing distance with better speed, DT Flight and Teleportation. Also he can just shoot..that works too.
Dante fights his brother Vergil/Nelo Angelo who teleports more than he walks. He has tremendous experience in fighting teleport spammers. He is one himself.
Vergil being in same skill lvl as him.
He massively outskills Hoopa.
Also speed is equalized, even for summons.
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Oh shoot i forgot
Since speed is equal, Dante can't just jump directly into hoopa, hoopa teleports away, the 2-A's arrive and shoot a giant beam incapping dante
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Speed is equal, but he is allowed to amp as long as its not a unfair blitz. DT amp is 2X speed. Which he will go from start of battle.
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How long does the amp take? Does he immediately just amp? If it takes longer than 5 seconds he's incapped, if his amp is immediate he wouldn't be able to catch hoopa since he can't fly or precog where hoopa's teleporting
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Damn I feel disappointed in myself
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Yeah after reading your arguments I can understand it
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Its thought based and instantaneous.
Bruh....Dante can fly with DT. And Alastor minor precog senses beings coming from Alternate timeline. Same for his Danger sense and Killing intent sensing beings in demon world from Human World before they appear. He has Interdimensional sensing range.
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Hey you can't blame me for the first argument I was awake extremely early at the time
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No need to be so rude, I have words in my mind that I do not wanna say
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And I don't say any rude word?
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He can't catch hoopa with him being able to easily teleport instantly, and all this would happen in 5-10 seconds before Dante gets inccapped? I really don't see how Dante can kill hoopa in 10 seconds especially since hoopa can teleport himself and Dante away, his precog wouldn't help with this, cause what would he do? Try to kill hoopa? Dodge the rings? All that in 10 seconds? This could very well be a stomp
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Dante fra
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Dante is a quick teleporter himself. Has faught and defeated his brother who is even more teleport spammy.
I don't see how Hoopa does anything impressive.
Speed Amp further edges the advantage in his favour.
His senory capabilities prevent any surprises from happening. He will be always 2 steps ahead of Hoopa in tactics.
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It's never confirmed that he is teleporting according to This (note that I just googled Dante teleport because I had my doubts)
His sensory would tell him that hoopa is teleporting, it would also tell him that there is a ring coming to also teleport him, it would ALSO tell him that 2-A's are on their way, and he's human, he wouldn't be able to know what he would do would he? All that in 5-10 seconds? Do you think he is like a supercomputer that would do everything perfectly?
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If you think that way, then make CRT, but no. Its teleport ability, similar to his brother Vergil.
Its called "Trick" for a reason. Just because it looks like something doesn't mean he is. Both brothers share same style of evasive combat style. And have same haxxes. In game its called teleport.
Do you even know what Precog and Prediction are?? And Precog is done by Alastor which is a live sword.
If you think he is ordinary human, you don't know anything about Dante.
Like, this is the worst counter I have heard in my life.
Go look his intelligence section.
"dAnTe is hUmAN"...bruh.
And if he was, you act like its a bad thing, I gues humans in fiction aren't allowed to be supernaturally smart.
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Is precog told by the sword? So the sword needs to talk? This would take enough time for the 2-A's to arrive
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Live Devil Arms are capable of telepathy, and devil arms after their submission to their masters are extension to them. So he doesn't need to give whole speech out loud.
Devil Arms are physical manifestations of souls of demon who submit to masters and become part of their souls. Summoned anytime for combat on whim.
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Telepathy is still speech, he still needs to hear that there 2-A's coming that the enemy can teleport, and that the enemy can also teleport him, do you think it would take less than 5 seconds to say that? Then amp his speed? Then attack?
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Hoopa can't teleport Dante in the first place. He Resists BFR. So lets get that out of the way.
We are talking about battle that is equalised at FTL speeds. 5 seconds are a lot.
And that's just me steelmanning you.
He doesn't need that much, you need a moment or two at best to relay just simple messages about enemy. Thats not counting Danger sense and instinctive reactions, power sense and soul sense to further warn him of 2A monster's invading the battlefield or their power lvl.
Amping needs only a thought. Its instant.
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Ring teleporting is not really BFR it just teleports Dante, them being ftl doesn't mean the battles will be faster than 5 seconds, in fact it would mean that the 2-A's can just instantly come out of the portals and incap dante
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BFR resistance covers forced teleportation.
Uhhh...5 seconds not enough for FTL... >.> bruh...
Also there is still doubt that he even summons them.
And when have they ever done battle quickly after appearing?
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