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I'll likely regret it, prolly already done but hey ho

Speed is equalised. Both are 2-C. SBA otherwise

Let's rock baby!: 0

Black eyed bastard: 0

Incon: 6



 
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boy oh boy where do i even start? what does the outsider have again that could prevent dante from just killing him?

also wouldnt void mundus be a more interesting match? cus y'know they're both voids
 
Am on mobile so looking thru stuff is a pain, BFR might work?

EDIT: Don't suppose Outsider's Type 9 would help at all?
 
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Understandable, mobile is a pain for characters with wall of text in their profiles.

Well, Dante resist BFR from Malphas's stones, so that's will likely not work, unless Outsider bypass one layer at minimum.

This is likely a incon match, since Dante cannot kill Outsider because of his size, but he also cannot kill or incap Dante, because he resist everything on his page and can adapt to his stuff if needed.
 
That's was the reason i say Dante cannot permanently kill him, his Type 9 comes from the void, Dante need to destroy the void to put him down for good, but since he don't have a away against his size, Dante cannot permanently kill him for good, meaning this is a icon match for both sides.
 
That's was the reason i say Dante cannot permanently kill him, his Type 9 comes from the void, Dante need to destroy the void to put him down for good, but since he don't have a away against his size, Dante cannot permanently kill him for good, meaning this is a icon match for both sides.
he can **** over his concept tho, its not like dante hasnt dealt with omnipresent beings before
 
Dante can't kill the Outsider since he has Immortality Type 9, while the Outsider can't do much against Dante because of his resistences. This is an incon.
 
he can **** over his concept tho, its not like dante hasnt dealt with omnipresent beings before
Yeah, but Void Mundus is an being of unknown size, and Outsider exist through 3 universes because of the Void, Dante never deal with something like that before tho.

Would Large Size and Type 9 not help at all?
It's should tbh, Dante don't have feats of killing people on the size of the Void.
 
Yeah, but Void Mundus is an being of unknown size, and Outsider exist through 3 universes because of the Void, Dante never deal with something like that before tho.
thats not how it works, it doesnt matter how big that guy is, dante is capable of affecting 4D omnipresent beings, if that is case, then he gets his concept yeeted by dante

how does his type 9 work btw?
 
thats not how it works, it doesnt matter how big that guy is, dante is capable of affecting 4D omnipresent beings, if that is case, then he gets his concept yeeted by dante
To fully affect an Omnipresent being you need a Range equal or superior to the kind of Omnipresence the opponent have.
For example, if The Outsider is Omnipresent through 3 Universes, Dante needs a range equal or superior to 3 Universes to fully affect him, otherwise he will only attack a small part of his full being.
The thing becames even worse if he is Omnipresent through hundrend or thousands of Universes.
This is why characters like 2-B Arceus are so OP, because they are Omnipresent through such a huge amount of Universes that it's hard to fully affect them.
 
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To fully affect an Omnipresent being you need a Range equal or superior to the kind of Omnipresence the opponent have.
For example, if The Outsider is Omnipresent through 3 Universes, Dante needs a range equal or superior to 3 Universes to fully affect him, otherwise he will only attack a small part of his full being.
The thing becames even worse if he is Omnipresent through hundrend or thousands of Universes.
This is why characters like 2-B Arceus are so OP, because they are Omnipresent through such a huge amount of Universes that it's hard to fully affect them.
okay but why though, that makes sense to AP, but this is just hax, even if dante affects a small part of him, his concept is still getting yeeted
 
That's how Large Size works, don't have the Range then not even Hax is doing anything.
 
Because it would affect only a small part of his full concept, not the entirety of it.
a concept doesnt even have size or any matter to begin with its a concept, if his attacks could destroy concepts, then affecting him a little nukes the whole thing.
I thought Outsider was 1000 x Baseline, not sure if that's in this key or not tho
pretty sure it shouldnt cus that would make him physically 2-B
 
Thats not how the Wiki treats Large Size and Concepts. Concepts still extend over an area, they just don't have any form, to affect them you need to affect the whole thing with adequate Range.

2-B is 1001 Universes, so 1000 Universes/timelines is still 2-C.
 
a concept doesnt even have size or any matter to begin with its a concept, if his attacks could destroy concepts, then affecting him a little nukes the whole thing.
Concepts have size. If a concept is spread through multiple Universes, than you will need a Range equal to the number of Universes this concept is spread through to fully destroy said concept.
 
thats not how it works, it doesnt matter how big that guy is, dante is capable of affecting 4D omnipresent beings, if that is case, then he gets his concept yeeted by dante

how does his type 9 work btw?
Where did you get this from?
 
Where did you get this from?
i thought since concepts are like formless & massless things, i doubt they even have size to begin with, affecting even a small part of it nukes the whole thing.

if you were talking about dante affecting an omnipresent being im talking about void mundus
 
Just because they don't have for or mass does not mean they don't technically have size, they might not have any shape we can percieve but they are still fundamental aspects of Reality that are spread across a certain area and to affect them requires a Range that can reach all of that area where the Concept exists.

As forvthe Mundus part, not how it works at all. Just because you can fight a being Omnipresent across a certain area does not mean you can affect a being whose spread across an area far bigger and outside their Range. It does not equalise like that and completely misses the point of what Large Size is.
 
Alternative Mundus is only omnipresent inside himself, so that's not matter here that much, and he is also not universal sized with the void, so is don't matter here tbh.
 
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