I disagree with it being light. A lot of this evidence isn't actually support for it being light speed (for example, "ghosts being able to make light" doesn't equate to "their beam attacks are light"). Furthermore, reading the previous thread gives more concrete evidence against than this thread gives in favor, I feel. For example, ghost things just phasing through physical objects is a pretty major trait that goes against the characteristics of light. Frankly, without a specific statement of ghost rays being light, I don't think we should equate them at all. Ever. I think your most concrete evidence is unusable- Butch Hartman's reaction is fairly definite, but then we have WoG and Death of the Author so it just... isn't usable.
Jot me down as opposed.
Alright so I'm going to go over this piece by piece to make it easy.
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I disagree with it being light. A lot of this evidence isn't actually support for it being light speed (for example, "ghosts being able to make light" doesn't equate to "their beam attacks are light")."
You do realize that I'm trying to prove it's light which is a part of it being light speed right?. Nowhere did I say "ghosts being able to create light = their beam attacks are lightspeed". That was simply just me explaining that they can create light to show it's nothing new to them so I don't get what you're saying here.
You picked a single part of the blog that was only meant to showcase them being able to create light. When I specifically put a section directly talking about speed called "Ghost Ray and Speed" in which I explained that it being lightspeed is actually consistent when the calcs involving the Ghost Ray actually match up with our current calcs for the verses current speed rating. Not to mention the author statement in which Butch outright agreed with them being light/lightspeed.
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Furthermore, reading the previous thread gives more concrete evidence against than this thread gives in favor, I feel. For example, ghost things just phasing through physical objects is a pretty major trait that goes against the characteristics of light."
I don't see how there is more evidence against it. Your example doesn't work because I explained that I screwed up on that on the whole intangible ghost ray in the original blog.
To go into detail. The Ghost Ray isn't naturally intangible, it hits real world objects and interacts with them accordingly as I blatantly showed with in the blog with the mirror and magnifying glass. If it always phased through everything that effect wouldn't have happened.
I even explained at the beginning of the blog the nature of ectoplasmic energy and how it's properties changed when they form it into something else like data, technology, fire and of course light. So the previous argument in the other thread regarding "ghost things phasing through physical objects" is unusable since it doesn't apply to the Ghost Ray which is shown to
not pass through physical objects naturally.
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Frankly, without a specific statement of ghost rays being light, I don't think we should equate them at all. Ever."
That's the entire reason for the blog.... I provided the evidence that proves it's light without the statement you're asking for. It's entirely possible to equat two things without a direct statement and Danny Phantom does this via showing and telling.
Shadow is a being of darkness who's only harmed by light as proven in the series.
Danny was completely unable to due it harm
until he used the Ghost Ray which we visually see cause it harm and
dazed it, to which Danny instantly new light was It's weakness and said "So bright light effects it". He then fully proves this by catching Shadow in the
light of a movie projector and later we see it effected by stadium lights.
So not only does it have the exact same effect on Shadow as actual light does and we know Shadow's
only weakness is light,
we have visual evidence of ghosts being able to create and project light so saying Danny can't project this into a beam is ridiculous especially since the Ghost Ray actually shows properties of being light such as when Danny
used it in combination with a magnifying glass to expand it and catch Shadow's entire body and in another episode
it reflects off a mirror.
Also, I explained earlier in the blog under the "Ectoplasmic Energy" section that when they change their ectoplasmic energy into something else it basically becomes that as shown with Skulker's battlesuit being actual technology and capable of being hacked by real world technology, Undergrowth's plants which grow and die like actual plants, and Technus and Danny as data being the same as normal data. So the Ghost Ray in all likelihood is light, especially when we have Butch Hartman agreeing with it.
Which brings me to your last point.
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I think your most concrete evidence is unusable- Butch Hartman's reaction is fairly definite, but then we have WoG and Death of the Author so it just... isn't usable."
You can't just claim "Death of the Author" and ignore Butch Hartman's word, that is wrong, especially when we have other verses on this site that utilize author statements so long as they are backed up by the stuff in verse and or if the author is not consistent with statements.
Butch Hartman's word is valid here because the Ghost Ray actually has backing of being light and as I pointed out in the blog in a previous video he did before the Death Battle was announced, Butch stated Danny could create light which is shown in the series.
Hell I just recently utilized a statement from Butch Hartman in a previous thread and it got accepted because it had supporting evidence from the actual show itself. So what's the difference here? Butch Hartman has always been consistent when talking about actual Canon stuff like in his
Ghost Zone Secrets video in which he provides actual clips from the show itself and when it came to the stuff he didn't clip like the unique ectoplasmic energy and OP Crown of Fire and Ring of Rage, that stuff is also supported in the series.
Butch basically tells us when he's talking non canon stuff like when he brought up things that didn't appear in the show or in his Danny Phantom 10 years later, Danny Phantom Graduation, or the latest on about Danny's lost brother which he dubbed a "Phan Fantasy" aka non-canon. So I see nothing wrong using his word on this.
I'll create an section on those who agree or disagree with the OP.
Note: I'm heading off to bed and won't be commenting until later tomorrow, got a busy day tomorrow. I'll comment to any replies when I get the chance.
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