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Damage Scaling on Sonic's profile
- Thread starter Jinsye
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I don't mind removing it (the "doubles" portion specifically like Theuser789 mentioned) if it's primarily game mechanic based.
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Yeah just the doubles part, LSA attack obviously is a big damage boost if Heroes is anything to go off
ShakeResounding
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Doesn't either a guide or the manual actually flat-out mention it doubles the damage? I'm fine with removing it if need be, but if it does double the damage in-game and is also said to double damage outside of it then I think it can stay by virtue of "just" doubling damage.
I'll edit the Advance 2 stuff out of the blog when I get to my laptop.
I'll edit the Advance 2 stuff out of the blog when I get to my laptop.
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List of Discussion Multipliers
Votes
Multipliers that can stay
- Power Cores
- Focused Homing Attack
- Egg Hawk accelerated development
- Frontiers level 99 damage boost
- Bosses taking half as many hits to kill at endgame in Advance 2 and Sonic 4
- Phantom Rush
- Light Speed Attack/Maximum Heat Attack
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Multipliers that can stay
- Power Cores: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Frontiers level 99 damage boost: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Phantom Rush: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Focused Homing Attack: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Egg Hawk accelerated development: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Bosses taking half as many hits to kill at endgame in Advance 2 and Sonic 4: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Light Speed Attack/Maximum Heat Attack: (2) Lonkitt, LordGriffin1000
Lonkitt I counted if I vote for Maximum Heat Attack as he has the LSA justification. I sent a message on your wall asking for confirmation of this vote too.
LordGriffin since Maximum Heat Attack was talked about before you commented and said you "agree" but didn't specify, I'll count your vote for it too. If I'm wrong, let me know.
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Are you talking about it? There's nothing double here.
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If a source for that exists it probably should be cited on the profile or at least in the scaling blog.
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The only thing I've seen of "double damage" is that this attack does double damage to a specific boss that is Chaos 6. But that seems 100% mechanical, since nothing double is said (from what I saw)
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Agree with removing it on the basis of game mechanics. Same with Maximum Heat Attack.
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List of Discussion Multipliers
Votes
Multipliers that can stay
To recap, multipliers that will leave/go away
- Power Cores
- Focused Homing Attack
- Egg Hawk accelerated development
- Frontiers level 99 damage boost
- Bosses taking half as many hits to kill at endgame in Advance 2 and Sonic 4
- Phantom Rush
- Light Speed Attack/Maximum Heat Attack
Votes
Multipliers that can stay
- Power Cores: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Frontiers level 99 damage boost: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Phantom Rush: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Focused Homing Attack: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Egg Hawk accelerated development: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Bosses taking half as many hits to kill at endgame in Advance 2 and Sonic 4: (3) Lonkitt, Maverick_Zero_X, LordGriffin1000
- Light Speed Attack/Maximum Heat Attack: (3) Lonkitt, LordGriffin1000, Maverick_Zero_X
Now it's up to you Sonic supporters to apply this.
To recap, multipliers that will leave/go away
- Focused Homing Attack
- Egg Hawk accelerated development
- Bosses taking half as many hits to kill at endgame in Advance 2 and Sonic 4
- Light Speed Attack/Maximum Heat Attack
GlaceonGamez471
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Bar the recently brought up LSA and Max Heat, everything was already applied besides removing Advance 2 from the stats blog itself
ShakeResounding
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Yeah, excuse me, but no. This philosophy is horrible. Neither I nor them are held responsible for applying every CRT for the verse just because we're supporters. OP should be held eligible for responsibility of at least some of the edits that need to be performed, as it was her premise to begin with and founder on issues she brought to attention. I'm not saying she has to edit everything, but I had to call out this faulty logic.
That being said... I've already adjusted most of the changes in my blog, the verse page, and within the Deadly Six profiles on my pass-through of editing them to 4-A beforehand.
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I saw that some were applied even before they were accepted (3 votes), for example the Focused Homing Attack
What philosophy? I said it was over and now it just has to be applied by obviously those who know the verse. I'm not throwing it all on anyone's back.
You took it too literally, as if it were your obligation.
ShakeResounding
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You never counted DDM's agreement beforehand iirc
To me, that's how you made it sound like. But I apologize if that wasn't your intention.
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I must not have seen it, or I saw it but I didn't tell because he didn't say what he thought of each one. Well, that's life.
Well, that's not how I wanted it to be. But I don't think I should have used "it's up to you".
I've never played Sonic games much and I don't know the verse side very much. I'm just here trying to help this crt as much as possible to move forward. When I said that, I was also saying that my work is over because I don't have any knowledge to help apply this.
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I didn't see any DDM messages, at most from Elizhaa saying that he agrees to remove things (without specifying the multipliers)
ShakeResounding
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I understand where you're coming from now. Thank you for the elaboration, not many would've done that.
And come to think of it, with the way the profiles are structured in keys right now (which is subject to change, as there's apparently a key overhaul planned), I'm actually not sure much else needs to be applied aside from removing the Advance 2 stuff from the Stats Blog.
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Aside from LSA and MHA needing the double statement removed, there are a lot of large star ratings that probably need to go
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Not really no, 8x from power cores still get us there
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Oh neat.
ShakeResounding
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Oh I already agreed to the Power Cores. I meant the other doubling statement I was called back here for
ShakeResounding
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Oh! My bad dude. That other doubling statement seems to actually not have a statement at all (the Light Speed Attack and Maximum Heat Attack), so they can just be smacked with a "deals greater damage" than "deals double damage".
I could've sworn there was an official statement of doubling their damage, but I suppose not. If I find it, I suppose I'll bring it up in a future thread for evaluation.
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From all the info I can find it only does double damage to Chaos 6 specifically. So the Adventure version doesn’t seem to qualify for a universal damage boost, good thing the Heroes version exists.
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What else needs to be done here, exactly?
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Removing the double Part of LSA and MHA on the pages
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Bump
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Bump
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Why Bump? It's over.
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The double damage from LSA is still on the character pages.
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But that's just applying. It's simply just waiting until someone (should be the OP) applies it.
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You could just remove that instead of bumping the thread, y'know.
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Pretty sure Sonic’s profile is locked.
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Then call a staff member to unlock.
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Can someone ping here, I’m not sure who to message about it. I guess I’ll go with Maverick
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all purpose request thread
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Changes have been made so, this can be closed.
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