D(VHD) VS SOMA CRUZ

[Distant_One11986]

BOTH LOW 2-C

SPEED EQUAL

D

SOMA CRUZ

 

[Brunout]

Hm...

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Doesn't D have a heavy AP advantage?

Plus, his experience and skill likely far outclasses Soma.

 

[Bobsican]

Just noticed D doesn´t resists Soma´s Death Manip

Soma also being able to seal once he notices D can just ressurect will come in handy here.

Then I have to ask:

What D leads with?

And, is this Base Soma or Dark Lord Soma? It can affect the match and leading moves a lot.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

D one shots Soma with his Durability, Regenerationn, Resurrection and Immortality Negation

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

And passive paralysis, fear, and empathic manipulation.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Soma resists all of that

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ah, then D FRA.

 

[Bobsican]

Soma resists all of that

That pretty much invalidates your vote with no further stuff supporting it, Milly Rocking Bandit

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I meant for Dante's reasons.

 

[Bobsican]

Oh, then you´re voting for Soma? As just "D", well, just look at the context

 

[ShivaShakti]

D takes this. He can bypass Soma's durability with his attacks, or just erase him with the Akashic Records.

 

[Bobsican]

Can you please explain? Soma resists a lot of stuff, and the Akashic Records are not here as that´s 2-C, as the OP says that both are at Low 2-C

 

[ShivaShakti]

Akashic Records are considered a weapon and isn't separate from his Low 2-C key unless specified he doesn't have access.

D negs durability via his attacks being able to cut the fount of life which is a conceptual thing, making his attacks deal damage on the conceptual level.

 

[Bobsican]

1: the OP says that both are at Low 2-C, this means that anything that would be higher than this tier is not in the match

2: Soma has actually dealt with conceptual attacks before and resists it, he won´t be one shotted.

 

[ShivaShakti]

1. That's really not the case with alot of matches. For instance this match Dovahkiin vs Morgath it has them both listed as Low 2-C, yet they were still taking into account Dovahkiin's Low 1-C weapons. It is the same case as here since D's Akashic Records are not a key on their own, but a tool he has access to in his Low 2-C key, as the Dovahkiin has access to Low 1-C equipment in his Low 2-C keys. You need to specify if youre restricting items.

2. Even disregaurding that, D has a sizable AP advantage that's most likely enough to oneshot on it's own, plus he can negate durability in other ways, such as cuting space-time rifts. Taking into account with Akashic Records as well, he can just erase Soma on a 2-C scale.

 

[Bobsican]

1: Well, the OP probably should also say it, but by SBA, in that case you´re right as of now

2: How high is he exactly? Soma has a decent scaling chain, and even if he dies, it being base Soma or Dark Lord Soma matters a lot here, as the former can resurrect into an stronger version (it even working is debatable as D can negate ressurection), while the other just dies.

 

[ShivaShakti]

From what i've read so far, D has a form of reactive powerlevel, in which he gets stronger every day, to the point the novels even state "Someone who was stronger than D likely won't be stronger than him tomorrow." Taking that in mind, D has fought and by this point surpassed a good number of Low 2-C's, such as Duke Gilzen, Valcua, and Noble Greylancer.

Although exact numbers I can't really get as it's a pretty long damn series. I'll need someone else who can back up what i'm saying.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

This is indeed true.

 

[Bobsican]

Soma is basically the God tier of the verse, he scales from Dracula, who is stated to come back considerably stronger each time he´s defeated, which has happened for millenia

Soma also having Statistics Amplification helps here

 

[Brunout]

Doesn't dracula take time to come back? Every time that he came back in the games, it took years

 

[Bobsican]

Well, in Soma´s case it´s different, it only lasts a few seconds if anything, but only once as that one is for him being consumed by chaos and coming back as Dracula

(This depends if this is base Soma or Dark Lord Soma, will the OP ever clarify that?)

 

[ShivaShakti]

The thing is if Soma keeps resurrecting, D can also just absorb him with Lefty.

 

[Bobsican]

He can only do it once assuming it´s base Soma, if not it won´t be combat applicable, so that won´t be an issue

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Dark Lord Soma >>> Soma (DoS) > Menace > Dario fused with Aguni > Dimitri/Dario > Soma (AoS) > Chaos > Dracula (1999) >= Julius = Alucard (1999) => Alucard (SoTN) > True Form Dracula (SoTN) > Dracula (SoTN) > Galamoth >>>>> Shaft (Feat above Baseline) > Richter being controlled by Shaft > Richter Belmont > Dracula (RoB) > Leon Belmont > Dracula (LoM) >>> Death (LoM) > Time Reaper => Low 2-C

IDK how big D's scaling chain is but Soma's basically the strongest thing in the verse

 

[Bobsican]

Well, there´s God in Castlevania, but he´s so dubious he even got his profile deleted.

Anyways, it´s stated that Dracula´s power rivals the one of God, and Soma is far above, so yeah pretty much the strongest one around.

 

[Genericstickman]

Doesn't Soma turn into Dark lord Soma if he dies? also I'm pretty sure Menace should be weaker then Chaos and Dracula

 

[Bobsican]

Yes, he does, hence why it is important that the OP says if this is base Soma or Dark Lord Soma

 

[Mister6ame6]

D FRA