Crusader vs Kazuma Kiryu

[Stillwinston]

So Kiryu hears about a man in armour has come to his city and is causing a ruckus, he goes to see it and it leads to a fight.

Speed is equalised. Crusader is early game at 9-A, Kiryu has a katana. Win via any means, standard battle assumptions. (Hope I do not regret this)

Holy Warrior - 0

Dragon of Dojima - 0

Inconclusive - 0

 

[Mr. Bambu]

From what I can tell, Crusader takes this relatively handily.

Despite an apparent AP advantage on Kiryu's side by a considerable degree (he is 9-A+ to Crusader's 14 kg of TNT), Crusader has most other advantages, including stat amp and healing. I'm told Kiryu does not, apparently, count as unholy.

Voting Crusader for now.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Kiryu would not count as Unholy. Kiryu is in actuality an extremely good person.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I mean

If you say so. My vote still leans barely to Crusader.

 

[Axl233]

Dude,Kiryu is>Majima>Saejima=114 kg of Tnt,he one shoots.

Not only that but he can also amp his speed with rush style special ability and become unable to get knocked out for a minute with his Dragon Style limit break.

 

[DMUA]

"Unholy" isn't even based on morality in Darkest Dungeon, it's more just against undead.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Pretty sure Kiryu is missing stat amps on his profile. I seem to remember he can do so with Rush Style.

EDIT: Ninja'd

 

[DMUA]

Dude,Kiryu is>Majima>Saejima=114 kg of Tnt,he one shoots.

Not only that but he can also amp his speed with rush style special ability and become unable to get Knowles out for a minute with his Dragon Style limit break.

.....

9-A is the biggest smallest tier once again

 

[Schnee_One]

Kiryu punches

Crusader dies

GG

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Should he get a Stat Amp on his page, then?

Also... where is the 114 kg of TNT calc/that isn't one-shot to my knowledge. Not inherently.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

"Unholy" isn't even based on morality in Darkest Dungeon, it's more just against undead.

These profiles should probably specify that Kiryu has stat amp (and link to calc) and Crusader's damage amp works only on undead

ffs

Kiryu FRA I guess via profiles being not whole.

 

[Schnee_One]

Look at the scaling chain though

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thomas_The_hype_Engine/Yakuza_Calcs

 

[Axl233]

Here. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thomas_The_hype_Engine/Yakuza_Calcs#comm-1000133

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Here.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thomas_The_hype_Engine/Yakuza_Calcs#comm-1000133

This time, YOU are the one who has been Ninja'd. ovo

 

[Schnee_One]

Crusader is near baseline while Kiryu is 9A+

It's basic

 

[DMUA]

and Crusader's damage amp works only on undead

.... I could have sworn that's what I put on the profile

WTF the fork

 

[Schnee_One]

<WTF the fork

Eh?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

WTF the fork

Nani?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Wait what

They never accepted one end or the other

So they could equally scale to the low-end at 13.33 kg of TNT.

Which is lower than Crusader's AP.

Somebody explain this to me.

 

[DMUA]

It's What the fork the fork

 

[Axl233]

Btw,why he is not 8C dint he have a calc were he tanked a 1 ton explosion?

 

[DMUA]

And yet another versus thread turns into a CRT

I swear Darkest Dungeon has profile manipulation

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Btw,why he is not 8C dint he have a calc were he tanked a 1 ton explosion?

Not at the epicenter. The further away from the center of a blast you are, the less energy you require to tank. For example, Goomba from Mario tanked an 8-B explosion, but even under the assumption it was from relatively close range it only amounted to 9-A.

 

[Axl233]

Yeah,but he was not that far of the epicenter and if someone recalced that it would probaly be higher then 9A.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I would doubt it. At point blank, tanking an explosion is very, very impressive. Upon going even a meter away from that epicenter? The intensity is now going through 12.5 square meters of surface area, to the average human's 0.65 surface area.

Explosion feats have a way of quickly becoming not impressive.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

For example. Let's say a 50 tons blast lands a meter from you, and you tank it. That'd be a solid 8-B feat, right?

...except that blast is now divided by 12.57 per square meter at that range. So now it's only 3.98 tons of TNT.

...except a human's surface area is generally only 0.65 by our standards IIRC. On one side, at least. So multiply the remaining 3.98 tons by 0.65 to get 2.59 tons of TNT for the character tanking what was originally a 50 ton blast.

 

[Axl233]

So that would mean that if we use the math that 1 Ton feat would be 51 kg of tnt for Kiryu instead,well R.I.P.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Possibly. We'd need the distance. Even an extra half meter makes it a fair shot lower.