Cronus vs Swamp Thing

[JackJoyce]

Cronus (Saint Seiya) vs Swamp Thing (Classic)

Both at 2-A

Speed Equalized



Swamp Thing is the ultimate avatar of The Gree

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Cronus can't kill him

But

Mind control should work

 

[JackJoyce]

Isn't it a inconclusive then?

 

[Schnee_One]

Mind control should work

<Homura vs Swamp Thing Flashbacks

 

[JackJoyce]

Homura had difficulty mindhaxing ST. I don't think Cronus can do.

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean ST stabbed and Punched to death an abstract so I don't think that thread is valid

 

[JackJoyce]

Seems like saint seiya stomps any DC or Marvel 2-A

 

[Schnee_One]

Not really no

Cronus can't kill it still

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Seems like saint seiya stomps any DC or Marvel 2-A

Even Lifebringer Galactus...

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

• And I'm saying this as a /co/ user

 

[JackJoyce]

Seems like saint seiya stomps any DC or Marvel 2-A

Even Lifebringer Galactus...

Nah. Lifebringer is getting a High 1-B upgrade

 

[SomebodyData]

I think Cronus' mind manip might work, though can ST do anything before Cronus eventually pulls that card?

 

[JackJoyce]

Cronus has passive sense shutdown.

 

[Schnee_One]

Cronus is baseline so that fails

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Except both are baseline

 

[Schnee_One]

Except both are baseline

And?

Sense shutdown works when you're stronger

 

[JackJoyce]

And?

Sense shutdown works when you're stronger

Wasn't Thanos with IG way stronger than Zeus? But it worked on him in the other thread..

Anyways ST really has nothing to hurt Cronus with

 

[Schnee_One]

Dude I was the guy who said it worked because of sense shutdown

Even then no, IG Thanos wouldn't be effected by it

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Cronus also has causality manipulation, and conceptual manipualation, which swamp thing has no answer to

 

[Schnee_One]

Conceptual manipulation does literally nothing and neither does causality

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I said CAUSALITY MANIPULATION for cronus, not his acausality

And cronus conceptual manipulation would be able to conceptually alter swamp thing (Conceptual mindhax, just for example)

 

[Schnee_One]

I know

Conceptual mindhax doesn't exist in Saint Seiya if ever

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

So Cronus just messes around with causality and traps swamp thing in a causality loop, incap done

 

[Schnee_One]

It's connection with the tree throughout the multiverse lets him come back

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Type 8 immortality doesen't mean he can resist causality hax or shutting all of swamp things senses down

 

[Schnee_One]

Where did I ever even once mention Type 8?

it's a High 1B structure he's connected too

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Okay

That still doesen't mean he resists mind control

At all

 

[Schnee_One]

Wrong

Again

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1488427?useskin=oasis

The connection to the structure is what allows him to resist mindhax unless it affects the tree itself

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's post flashpoint swamp thing

 

[Schnee_One]

Both are connected to the same structure

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Then swamp thing wouldn't have gotten stomped by homura

Cronus mindhaxes GG

 

[Schnee_One]

He didn't get stomped. Clearly you didn't look at thread.

FFS it literally says in the OP that closed it that Swamp thing Stomps if it was connected

You didn't even bother reading what I pasted for you?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I meant homura vs classic swamp

Also swamp thing isn't acasual

 

[Schnee_One]

High Godly is enough to survive paradox IIRC

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Regenerationn doesen't make you resist non lethal hax. In any way.

 

[Schnee_One]

Making you no longer exist through paradox is absolutely lethal.

Not like Cronus can actually take advantage of him not being acasual since time traveling is out of character

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...Mind hax isn't lethal. And Cronus is above characters with bullshit mind hax.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wrong

Again

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1488427?useskin=oasis

The connection to the structure is what allows him to resist mindhax unless it affects the tree itself

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Unless this was directly demonstrated, no. He doesen't have mind hax resistance on his profile.

 

[Schnee_One]

This is the equivalent of saying that a 2A can't resist 3D mindhax unless shown