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I think in any case we should use something to prove that the verse can be put to Tier 1. Granted, i think it's obvious God wasn't affect by the Crisis anyway but still. And yeah, i know, just saying about that.
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Mister Nobody from Doom Patrol S1 can be arguably 1-A via exisiting in white spece of comicbooks + conciousness can be above time and space and said he could control this entire Doom Patrol show streaming serviceArkhamDC06 said:Arrowverse Tier 1 ? Wow !
Ok i know most confusing are characters who are literal living plot armors who manipulate plots for entertainment. But just showing what had happened. Or Mr nobody is just that strong in his tv show because he wouldn't be that strong in other DC streaming app shows like Young Justice or TITANS or Swamp Thing etc.Greenshifter said:Well... ok, don't know what that would give him tbh.
CW was much more powerful than MCU since Speed Force and Temporal zone introducementArkhamDC06 said:Yeah, that would be great. It's rather incredible to know that the Arrowverse is already more powerful than the MCU and now, it's possible he will get even more powerful !
About Presence there is one problem. Same problem as with MCU Dormammu or 4 entities. They are featless. They are completely featless beings. That's the problem. Idk how u acknowledge this but i do not praise beings who are featless and if they have implied feats they are completely off-screen. In my opinion we all should wait for Lucifer Season 5 and see what is Presence truly capable of. I believe Presence might be above Mobius, because Lucifer Morningstar didn't care about Crisis ( still laughing at him of being annoyed by normal bullets ).ArkhamDC06 said:Yeah that's what i said (not the Speed Force and Temporal zone part but still).
Ok maybe i am exaggerating with this outerversal thing but really if u see his feats they are terryfying to meIonliosite said:Dude, waht you posted about Mister Nobody are just meta jokes, nothing implies 1-A there.
How is the feat 5-A? Isn't it mostly a flashback thing?Season 5: 5-A (Stronger than Rama Khan who was mainly responsible for blowing up Jarhanpur),
What do they have for this?As for speed I’m planning MFTL+ for a lot of people.
No idea, didn't get that far yet, I was going of what you guys were saying in the thread. (Hence the "I still need to research some feats")How is the feat 5-A? Isn't it mostly a flashback thing?
Several Barry feats and statements + Godspeed's feat.What do they have for this?
Oh I thought you meant upgrading SG to MFTL+ or Superman.Several Barry feats and statements + Godspeed's feat.
If it's exclusively MFTL+ without FTL supporting feats or statements then that'd be 2 to 3
From my memory the only instance where you could get size is a not to scale model where it shows it next to Krypton and Rao.I'm assuming it's made clear to be a big planet somehow?
Oh well they scale to Barry, it's possible that they immediately scale to MFTL+ since season 1. But even if they don't (if season 2 Barry isn't MFTL+) they'll scale to it eventually since they are literally always relative to Barry in speed (maybe not potential unlocked Barry during Crisis, no idea).Oh I thought you meant upgrading SG to MFTL+ or Superman.
How do you know that it's not to scale? Also aren't those 2 planets already massive btw?From my memory the only instance where you could get size is a not to scale model where it shows it next to Krypton and Rao.
When? The feat where she flew around the earth to slow down time? Not only was time well being slowed down during that feat but that could have simply been a slowed down version of the scene for the watcher to be able to follow. + You'd have to apply this to Barry as well since he used equal effort and was shown at the same speed, heck this feat is one of the reasons you can argue MFTL+ since this feat pushed Barry past the defenses of his speed force aura, something that didn't happen when he got amped to run towards a breach that closes in 1 picosecond.I wanna say they aren't MFTL+ considering how hard Kara struggled to go SoL.