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Because no planet is the size of a full blown star
There are some versions of Krypton that are large, but most are vaguely Earth sized. The largest version of Krypton is still dwarf by a star.
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Crisis on Infinite Earths (CW) Official Discussion Thread
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That didn't happen because he amped. That's the point of an amp, to go beyond what they're capable of normally.
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It’s a dwarf star and I think them being really big could be acknowledged.
Prove that the amp amplified his speed force protective aura rather than just his speed.
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Well, that sounds promising. Though I have no idea about what this forcefield stuff is.
What's the tier for dwarf star?
What's the tier for dwarf star?
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If you can find something about it being a Red Dwarf or the planets being large sure.
I don't need to. He had an amp and preformed a feat far beyond every other showing he's had. It's a text book case of no backscaling without a statement or raw showing.
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You'd find the GBE of the planet and divide the energy by surface area. With that you'd get a tier for the shield.
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I meant in-verse it might have been acknowledged that they are big. The red dwarf star thing comes from arrowverse wiki, I’ll dig for it later.
Iirc the amp is like 5 times above what I have regular season 4 Flash at. Accounting for the recalc in the comments which is even faster than what we have him at now.
For one, the Elseworlds feat happened after the amp so it’s not backscaling, it’s upscaling (albeit potentially not that useful considering he never exerts himself that much after that probably). Secondly the Elseworlds feat could be considered a “raw showing” considering it taxed his body more than the amped feat did. So there are 2 options: 1) the “unknown” for his durability while amped on his page gets changed to “higher” or 2) we can scale above the feat. I’d say option 2 since there is no proof for it amping his speed force aura.
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OK thanks. I'd let that to others though, with how bad I am at math lol.
But again, what is that forcefield stuff? Can't remember a thing about a forcefield for Argo.
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Of course it taxed his body more.... he wasn't amped. You can't say that because he struggled without an amp he scales above his amp, that's not how amps work on this site.
Superman struggling with something does not suddenly mean he upscaling from his sun dipped version.
Argo survived Krypton's destruction due to the shields didn't they?
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Can't remember honestly, I haven't even red anything about Supergirl for a long time, the only things intersting me in the Arrowverse now are Legends and Flash and only barely.
Qawsedf, what do you think about the rest of the proposal (like tier 6, the Low 5-B stuff and possibly High 4-C)?
Qawsedf, what do you think about the rest of the proposal (like tier 6, the Low 5-B stuff and possibly High 4-C)?
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Plate lift and 5-A scaling I'm not 100% sold on. The rest are fine or backed by statements
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Good then, that's a good start for a future edit. It's a good thing, the Arrowverse profiles really need an update.
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Plate lift might not even be a thing iirc. And I don’t know where to find the superactive blue star thing.
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Its a short statement from the Superman episode in Season 2 where that one nerd guy asked how Superman stopped an Earthquake triggered by Lex Luthor. Like the newspaper in the DCEU its a reference to Superman I
Isn't it the Fort Rozz returns episode where they bounce the sigil off of the satellite? Though honestly them full scaling to the solar flare is questionable considering how large solar flares are.
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Yeah, unless they have demonstrated something similar, we shouldn't scale them to solar flare. I recall Supergirl closing a black hole in a recent season or something but it didn't have this size and it was more of a singularity.
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It was an artificial one. A woman generated it in a small theatre building and nothing was destroyed from it, so full scaling it to an actual black hole isn't really an option.
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Also that reminds me put is no one gonna talk about Superman’s solar flare rivaling the power of the sun?
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Yeah, that.
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Where did that happen? In Supergirl or in the new Superman series?
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That's like, a High 6-A feat.
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That would already be a very good feat. And if possible, one that could help making a new tier for the verse.
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Is is Lois & Superman? If so when does that take place again?
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S&L takes place well after Supergirl. Also attempting to scale Superman to the solar flare doesn't work in the first place.
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How is the power of the sun just continent lvl ?
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New Superman series
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The sun outputs like 4 * 10^26 joules a second. Which is High 6-A. It takes about a week for the Sun to produce enough power to destroy the Earth completely if it was focused in a beam.
Supernovas, Novas, and the one thing where they shed their upper layers are far different reactions which is why they result in large amounts of energy.
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That also kinda sounds hyperbolic without further context
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Okay that seems legit
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Is this a good feat for this then?
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Not if their base rating is Tier 5.
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Isn’t this supposed to be a different version of cow supes considering his post crisis
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I’m joking obviously
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Yeah
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He’s a paragon I think so nope
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What is a paragon?
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Basically, the designation for people fated to defeat the Monitor in the Crisis and given to them by Mar Novu. And aside from being able to remember the Pre-Crisis Multiverse, this status doesn't seem to grant them any other power. It's basically just a title fitting their personnality.
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That could still be used at least as a feat to support their strength.
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Finally caught up to all the Superman & Lois episodes after finals, I think it's kind of implied the Heat Vision of a shitton of Kryptonians helped Superman to generate that much energy aside from the solar flare? At least that'll be the low-ball assumption unless proven otherwise.
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Also nice that Superman speaks Cantonese canonically lol
