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Creation Trio CRT

Regular trainers/Pokemon moving around the distortion world is kinda an anti-feat though
 
Well, in the games the only ones that access the distortion world are Cyrus, the MC and Cynthia, the first one is dragged by Giratina personally (who seems interested in Cyrus in Pkmn Generations) and the last two are guided by the lake trio.
 
The only abilities added for now are temporal BFR and Existence Erasure, which are pretty obvious.

And Life Manipulation
 
I think the suggested abilities should be added to the OP, though they're pretty uncontroversial imo
 
While we're at it, why is it that Giratina doesn't have power nullification or some kind of attack negation via the Distortion World?

Giratina and the Sky Warrior blatantly proves this is the case. Whenever an imbalance happens in the Pokemon Multiverse, the distorion world corrects that imbalance so that the balance between time and space remains stablized.

Hence why a battle between 2 2-B pokemon didnt instantly destroy Alamos Town once Palkia dragged it into the crossfire. The Distortion World surpressed their attacks destructive capabilities.

Whenever the Distortion World does this, black toxic clouds are created as bi products of balancing time and space. Which was why Giratina was pissed at Dialga and Palkia in the 1st place because their battle in Alamos Town caused an overflow of these toxic clouds.
 
Are there any more staff members listed in the Pokémo verse page that you can ask to comment here? It seems like the Distortion World was previously discussed and decided to only have some of the properties of a truly timeless void.
 
Creation for the Lake Trio:
"Three Pokémon there were.
Into the lakes they dove.

Deep, deep, drawing no breath.
Deeper, deeper they dove.
Into suffocating depths they dove.
Deeper, then deepest they alight.
From the lake floor they rise.
Bearing with them the power to make vast lands, they rise again."
 
NeoZex6399 said:
Well, in the games the only ones that access the distortion world are Cyrus, the MC and Cynthia, the first one is dragged by Giratina personally (who seems interested in Cyrus in Pkmn Generations) and the last two are guided by the lake trio.
Point is, they shouldn't be able to move in a place without time at all, let alone have a Pokemon battle there.
 
What I mean is that it's possible that the reason they can move is because Giratina desires it ( after all, it controls the distortion world), plus the first layers of the distortion world are made to test those who venture into Giratina's realm.

It is a possibility, at least Giratina should get a resistance to the conventional space time manipulation, I don't care much about the type of void tbh.
 
Can somebody ask all of the staff members listed in the Pokémo page to comment here?
 
So...about Giratina's Power Null....

And Neo, would you mind adding the bit on Arceus's mind hax resistance to your OP? It's been well agreed on by Cal and others to be upgraded but it still needs to be added to Arceus's page.
 
This all looks pretty solid to me. With the only thing I might be slightly on the fence about being the Acausality. But even then, I am more inclined to say yes.

Also "First Law" ability.

Is that, umm... Is that passive Power Null/Attack Negation I see there?
 
Existing outside of conventional logic is enough to get type 4 acausality for what I read and Giratina is the Distortion world, also the fight of Dialga and Palkia in the manga was causing the past, present and future to combine, And Dialga and Palkia weren't really affected.

Dialga also has a ability/move called Timeless.

>Is that passive Power Null/Attack Negation?

Probably
 
NeoZex6399 said:
Existing outside of conventional logic is enough to get type 4 acausality for what I read and Giratina is the Distortion world, also the fight of Dialga and Palkia in the manga was causing the past, present and future to combine, And Dialga and Palkia weren't really affected.
Dialga also has a ability/move called Timeless.
In that case... Looks good to me.

Also, if it is passive Power Null/Attack Negation, that's some very high level of overpowered there... Suddenly it's easier to count the haxes Arceus doesn't resist!
 
NeoZex6399 said:
also the fight of Dialga and Palkia in the manga was causing the past, present and future to combine, And Dialga and Palkia weren't really affected.
I remember this. Is there any particular reason why this wouldnt be an immeasurable speed feat?
 
Looking over some of these, the reason that EE is listed is because they just have space-time destruction.

BFF is fine.

Breath Attack is fine.

Life Manip is fine.

Resistance to Mind Manip is fine.

Non-physical interaction is fine.
 
Its not just because of space-time hax. As mentioned above, their EE would also come from:

-Nuking Darkrai out of existence

-Palkia pretty clearly threatening to erase the 2 protags out of existence
 
Yeah, and how is that done? By destroying space-time. EE is just the end result of something; if we have the functionality of the attack (destroying space-time), EE is pointless to list and may confuse people.
 
Then why is space-time erasure suddenly a seperate ability?

Unless that's just the wording of it to note how it's specifically done?
 
Assaltwaffle said:
Looking over some of these, the reason that EE is listed is because they just have space-time destruction.
BFF is fine.

Breath Attack is fine.

Life Manip is fine.

Resistance to Mind Manip is fine.

Non-physical interaction is fine.
What about the Immortality and Acausality?
 
"Existence Erasure is the simple power to remove something from existence, leaving nothing behind, a level of destruction beyond incineration, vaporization, and atomization."

This is something the CT and Arceus can definitely do.
 
I think immortality is fine, characters like Hakumen have immortality type 5 because they are "neither alive nor dead".

Also it is not so strange that kind of immortality for beings like Palkia or Dialga.
 
NeoZex6399 said:
"From itself, two beings the Original One did make.
Time started to spin. Space began to expand.
From itself again, three living things the Original One did make.
The two beings wished, and from them, matter came to be.
The three living things wished, and from them, spirit came to be."
"The birth of PALKIA.
The creator of parallel dimensions...
Alive, yet not alive...
Everything drifts in space...
To arrive in the same universe.
It is the blessing of PALKIA."

"This is... That where life sparkles... That where life has faded... A place where two worlds overlap..."


Is it possible for Dialga and Palkia to have type 5 immortality (Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death)? In the myths they are called "beings" as opposed to Lake Trio, which are called "living things", Palkia is declared as "alive, yet not alive", and the description of the distortion world seems to suggest that life and death are just the same there.
@DMB1
 
The fact that only the Lake Trio out of the 6 are considered living beings, and the other stuff Neo provided, should be enough for T5 I think.
 
What has been accepted by Assaltwaffle can probably be applied.
 
I agree with the rest, but I'll expect more things about EE, but what Palkia and Dialga did with Darkrai seems to really be EE, even though it's via Time-Space Manipulation
 
Earth manipulation seems safer i.m.h.o.
 
Don't they already have Creation in their profiles?

Anyways, in context, the "vast lands" sounds more like creation itself described through a metaphor, so it just further supports Creation as an ability.
 
Well, that seems to be a non-issue then.

The changes that were accepted still need to be applied though.
 
They don't have creation on their profiles. I'd say it's safer to assume it's Earth Manipulation, until further evidence for Creation arises.
 
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