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If what you are saying is true, then I would definitely say that Cool Cat wins! >W<
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Cool Cat vs Thunder McQueen
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@Oblivion if McQueen dies whoever he wants to die with will die. Why would he pick Cool Cat of all people?
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But it's already been proven how he wouldn't want to die with Cool Cat...Redite250 said:
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Because the Stand would immediately target CC from the very beginningBigSmoke4269 said:
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@Redite why would they fight in the first place?
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Doesnt matter. HtH would kill CC anyway because its already atached to himMadotsuki24 said:
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Then how would McQueen die if he would win in a physical fight against Cool Cat? Maybe I just don't understand your current comment...Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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That's not how HtH works.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
"Born from Thunder McQueen's desire to not die alone, this Stand will pull those the user desires in with their death."
The stand doesn't automatically choose.
Anyways, Cool Cat would realise that McQueen is cripplingly depressed, try to stop him, inadvertantly make him even more suicidal, and drive him to suicide.
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Because of his short-term memory because of having his memory disc removed. He could only remember that he wanted to kill himself with Hermes Costello.Redite250 said:
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What does that mean exactly? O.ORedite250 said:
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Somebody better make a profile for a CATS character so that I can kill them using Cool Cat
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'''Why would McQueen want to die with Cool Cat?'''
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Because thats what he does.BigSmoke4269 said:
He is a suicidal
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NLF. Just because it hasn't shown to work when tried by one person, doesn't mean that it will never work. There are other characters in fiction who are able to talk Thunder out of committing suicide, even though Hermes couldn't, so we really shouldn't think that it's impossible.Maestro46 said:
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Ok, then explain why and how CC's talking would be better than Hermes
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Hermes is a quick to anger girl with a sour attitude. If you were trying to get someone to not commit suicide, Hermes is the last person you would want to use.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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That didnt answer my question. Also, trying to convince McQueen to not kill himself just makes it worse
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Again, NLF. The only thing that made it worse is that Hermes said to Thunder that not all days are like Monday and that he should see days as Saturdays. Thunder got convicted on a Saturday which triggered him because of that. If you tried to make me better if I suffered from depression and you said "I promise you that your days will feel like your birthday from now on." and my grandma died on my birthday earlier in life and I was offended by it, that doesn't mean that I would get offended by everything you say and that I will never recover from depression, that's not how it works.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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Cool, but that still didnt answer my question. How good are CC's social feats?
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From what I saw from other threads, noMaestro46 said:
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Thunder doesn't instantly commit suicide from the sight of someone, he talks to them first then how someone he would like to be with wouldn't happen, then he will try to commit suicide, but it takes some time for him to actually execute his suicide attempt.Maestro46 said:
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If CC punches him, he'll commit suicide
If CC talks to him, he'll commit suicide (but CC doesnt even know about HtH so that point is moot)
If CC talks to him, he'll commit suicide (but CC doesnt even know about HtH so that point is moot)
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HtH will only affect Cool Cat if McQueen wants to die with him. Also, the reason Cool Cat attacked in the other threads was because he was bloodlusted.
In character, Cool Cat picks words over violence. It's shown in his dream sequence.
In character, Cool Cat picks words over violence. It's shown in his dream sequence.
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As I said before, talking isn't going to work. Heck, Ermes gave him her panties so that he'd become happy (which he did) and stop committing suicide. He still did it anyway.
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That's...kind of the point. Thunder will still commit suicide, but why would he want to die alongside Cool Cat? From what you guys have been telling me, I'd think he'd rather die alongside Ermes. HtH doesn't "attach" itself to the enemy. It just draws whoever McQueen would like to die with into death.
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If Thunder McQueen is forced to bring Cool Cat with him no matter what for the sake of this debate, then I vote incon.
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Why is this SBA again?
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Well, it's still Thunder committing suicide and not bringing Cool Cat with him, which has happened before in VS Debates so that is a way that Cool Cat can win.Redite250 said:
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