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Continuation Steven Universe Revision

Appatebtly NarutoForums calculated Garnet drstroying a Mountain but the link doesn't seem to work...

Any idea about the feat?
 
To be fair, the mountain collapsing was the result of a prolonged fight between Garnet and the corrupted Gem, so IDK if we should apply the total energy of it to Garnet. Maybe dividing it by two or four would give a good lowball.
 
There are dozens of tier 6 feats, calling the most consistent feats in the verse an outlier is outright ridiculous and blatant bias
 
WeeklyBattles said:
There are dozens of tier 6 feats, calling the most consistent feats in the verse an outlier is outright ridiculous and blatant bias
When I asked you to provide the 'dozens' of feats for consistency you gave Bambu three Tier 7 feats, a Tier 6 feat based off of something that was retconned, and a feat that didn't have a timeframe and wasn't even shown to happen in the comic.

Outside of that there's Mass-Energy which doesn't apply here as discussed above.
 
I gave two immensely casual tier 7 feats, a direct 6-C feat, a tier 6 feat that was definitely NOT rectonned as it had blatant scientific backing with numbers directly given in the show, and a tier 6 feat that you simply refuse to acknowledge because it is in fact consistent and you dont like it
 
WeeklyBattles said:
I gave two immensely casual tier 7 feats, a direct 6-C feat, a tier 6 feat that was definitely NOT rectonned as it had blatant scientific backing with numbers directly given in the show, and a tier 6 feat that you simply refuse to acknowledge because it is in fact consistent and you dont like it
I gave Bambu plenty of Tier 7 feats that took visible effort from the gems.

"Blatant scientific backing"

It's not at the core of the earth. The core of the earth is solid, they only went through a part of the mantle. It's also shown later that the cluster is under a specific area on the Earth, which wouldn't make any sense as if it was at the center of the earth it would have been equally under all points on the surface.

There was actually no numbers given from the show, just two statements directly contradicted by what happens later.

And now you're making attacks on my intentions, which is uncalled for.
 
@Ricsi Nah, more like truth. He's acting like a laser has a gravity field that moves Gems around when Gems passively adapt to be unaffected by gravity, which would make gravity-based technology useless for them
 
Peridot directly gave the exact specifications for how much heat and pressure the drill would have to survive in order to reach the Cluster
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Ricsi Nah, more like truth. He's acting like a laser has a gravity field that moves Gems around when Gems passively adapt to be unaffected by gravity, which would make gravity-based technology useless for them
It's a gravity field you're calling a laser that is never shown nor ever goes off, using a false association.

I already explained that there is a page explicitly explaining gems had to be poofed to travel up the gravity field.

Stop trying to attack my motives. I like Steven Universe and would like it portrayed accuratly on this site.
 
Its not a gravity field. Gravity-based technology is completely useless for gems as they passively adapt to resist it
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Its not a gravity field. Gravity-based technology is completely useless for gems as they passively adapt to resist it
It's usless for Gems that aren't poofed, yes.

They have to poof the gems to let them travel up the warp.

It's also explictly stated to function under gravity.
 
Lack of supporting feats

Doesn't meet Kaltias' requirements

Doesn't make sense for lower tiered characters like Pertidot w/out equipment and the pebbles

IMO M-E shouldn't be used. It doesn't matter how engrained it is in the show, which I doubt, if the results and applications don't make sense.
 
Every Tier 6 feat mentioned is this and the last thread so far and the arguments given against them:

  • Gems defeat a living island: Happened off-screens and we don't know how, plus it took all three of them, plus we don't know how powerful the island even is, since "tectonic emergency" lacks context.
  • Rubies get hit by the Roaming Eye: 6 Gigatons is only the full kinetic energy generated by the ship, you need to take into effect the AoE that hit the Rubies, which reduces the feat to only 200 Megatons.
  • Sardonyx's hammer: Nothing wrong with this one, but it only scales to other fusions and doesn't affect the base Gems.
  • Durability of the Mini-Clusters that attacked the Drill: This was brought up in the the first thread and Antoniofer said it can't be used because it uses an uncommon method and questionable physics.
  • Gem Warship crashing to Earth: The calc is apparently outdated, and it was recalculated to be High 7-A.
  • Garnet swims in the core of the sun: Never happened in the actual show, and the calc is apparently wrong.
  • Satellite from the comics: The explosion never happened, it could have just been a gravity beam instead of a laser, the beam being this big to begin with might have just been inconsistent art from the comic, since it was stated that the tractor only covered Beach City, plus it doesn't scale to anybody.
  • Everything else is M-E.
Sorry if I forgot anything.
 
@Paulo The sattelite from the comic was actively melting everything in its area of effect before it even fired, its not gravity in any way shape or form and was described later in the comic as an electromagnetic cannon
 
And seriously what is with you guys and not wanting to use M-E for no reason? The whole reason Gems as a race exist is because they use Mass-Energy to make bodies
 
If you REALLY want to get into semantics, they break each others' bodies down into energy and merge it with their own to fuse, and both Pearl and Garnet have actively broken down and remade common objects by putting them into and removing them from their Gems
 
WeeklyBattles said:
And seriously what is with you guys and not wanting to use M-E for no reason? The whole reason Gems as a race exist is because they use Mass-Energy to make bodies
...

This was repeated already.

Several times.

And the same argument, if you can call it that, was already responded to as well.
 
@Ricsi If you REALLY want to get into semantics, they break each others' bodies down into energy and merge it with their own to fuse, and both Pearl and Garnet have actively broken down and remade common objects by putting them into and removing them from their Gems
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Ricsi If you REALLY want to get into semantics, they break each others' bodies down into energy and merge it with their own to fuse, and both Pearl and Garnet have actively broken down and remade common objects by putting them into and removing them from their Gems
This does not in any way get around the many problems presented with it.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
And seriously what is with you guys and not wanting to use M-E for no reason? The whole reason Gems as a race exist is because they use Mass-Energy to make bodies
We gave reasons for not using ME that you refuse to recognize.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Paulo The sattelite from the comic was actively melting everything in its area of effect before it even fired, its not gravity in any way shape or form and was described later in the comic as an electromagnetic canno
We only see it melt a tiny bit of sand.

And again the area of effect was only Beach City.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
It does in fact get around any problems presented
...No it does not.

You saying "yes too" does not counter the many problems brought up. Woute and respond to each one at a time, and actually do so by presenting your logic.
 
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