Composite Organism Part 3: The Venom Saga

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Fish is only "possibly" 9-A because its 9-A stats include an extinct species. The 9-B stats already use the fastest speed with the heaviest weight.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Hadou

I heavily disagree with the premise of your calcs.

Just because the mite's speed was measured in body lengths doesn't mean its speed is proportional to its body length.

You also can't convert Pressure to Joules, so it's useless for AP or Durability.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Using the heaviest organism and the fastest organism gets a KE of 3.5109e+10 joules, High 8-C+

Thi i its tier without using the mite

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

1.3 times away from 8-B. How sad.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Okay. We can downgrade this thing. Just makes it more haxxed. Weekly, you can do the changes.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

1.3 times away from endingup fighting kars. How sad.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

So this thing is 682 now. What even.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Please no...it's good because now it avoided Kars...but now...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Just to make sure my math is good, Pando weighs 6000000 kg.

Fastest organism is the Peregrine Falcon, 108.184 m/s

1/2 M * V^2

3000000 * 11703.777856

35111333568 joules

Look good?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I did the same thing earlier and it gave me just under what you got. Seems fine by me.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Also, I don't understand why it's durability can't be calculated using the pressure the Tardigrade can withstand. If the Tardigrade can withstand pressure six times greater than that of the bottom of the ocean, how could that not be used for durability?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Pressure =/= Energy, which is what we use.

Also the tardigrade can survive such amount of pressure because it's small af. If it was bear-sized it wouldn't fare much better than a bear.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Pressure cannot be converted to joules.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

As many have saids, these calcs are pure wank and ignore all semblance of physics. An ant the size of a human would collapse under its own weight.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

But it does it by cryptobiosis, which this thing is capable of performing. It allows the Tardigrade to withstand tens of thousands of tons per square meter(but Tardigrades are only a millimeter, so a million times less pressure xD). Is there no way to determine durability from pressure like that?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Cryptobiosis just means it shuts itself down to survive through stuff. It doesn't make its durability higher.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Psi to Joule converters exist.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Cryptobiosis just means it shuts itself down to survive through stuff. It doesn't make its durability higher.

Well,techncally when it does so it covers it self with a glass like substance

 

[Royalty1702]

Tier 8 CO?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

@Hadou It has been accepted by most calc memb that this is just wrong.

@Yob Which doesn't make its durability higher.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@Saikou

Just being accurate. Didn't mean to imply that.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I am not saying it isn't wrong, I just want to know why pressure can't be used at all.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Quick, make a combined organism OVO

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Yes.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I mean 7-A and MHS+ is the kind of stats I'd expect of a Combined organism, not composite.

@Hadou Pressure isn't energy. So it cannot be used in our energy-based system.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

No. ;-;

As I said earlier, I'm fine with the 8-C+ change.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Considering the combined human is MHS+ / Sub-Rel, i'd expect a combined organism to be at least Sub-Rel or Sub-Rel+ in general speed

 

[ThePerpetual]

@Saikou I was just about to say that, actually...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Hadou High 8-C+ actually

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Oh, lovely.

 

[Royalty1702]

Weekly, the venom thing is done I think. What else needs to be done?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Also, about the speed of what a Combined Organism would be, I'm 100% certain that Combined Bacteria alone would be MFTL+.

 

[Crzer07]

should this thing get possible Resistance to Soul Manipulation via there being no such thing, or at least it being considered pseudoscience? In fact all real life characters should have possible soul manip resistance by default.

 

[Royalty1702]

^ Controversial.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Nope, under verse equalization CO will have soul.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also, about the speed of what a Combined Organism would be, I'm 100% certain that Combined Bacteria alone would be MFTL+.

Just counting bacteria on earth right now and using the speed of a three-toed sloth (Slowest animal) would put it at 2.2367474e+19 c

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...aceWitch/Hypothetical_Combined_Bacteria_Speed

Yeah, pretty far into it. Combined Bacteria would speed blitz Whis.

 

[ThePerpetual]

@Crzer I think not. Even granting everything you say is true and usable in this context, the logical implication of having "Resistance" as an ability is that you can resist it more than an average being can. If everything with a soul had potential Resist to Soul Manip., then that would be accounted for in the Soul Manip. feat itself by default.

At any rate, we have to assume that that's pseudo-science for our purposes here unless people in real life somehow acquire really, reaalllly good evidence that souls are, in fact, a thing that exists, so... yeah.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Combined Organism and Combined Human are both stupid. At least Composite has some sense.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Combined Organism and Combined Human are both stupid. At least Composite has some sense.

Look Matt. Imma be blunt. Just calling it stupid does't mean anything. We hae accepted our calcs were incorrect, that this ws slightly off. But just saying it's stupid doesn't mean anythin unless you explain why, so unless you are willin to share your reasonin, it doesn't necessarily have a effect here.