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Completely unimportant speed minor upgrade for saitama, cosmic garou, and blast
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GodlyCharmander
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Why do you cry, Conservation of Energy?I always imagined it as something like this (sorry for the bad drawings lol):
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can an admin ping someone from the calc group, like the person who made the accepted sp^2 calculation
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GodlyCharmander
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Just... Grab the radius from here.
Assuming 3s since it was implied to be fast.
1.54286E20 meters /3 = 5.14286667e19 m/s (MFTL+)
Very simple, no?
Assuming 3s since it was implied to be fast.
1.54286E20 meters /3 = 5.14286667e19 m/s (MFTL+)
Very simple, no?
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That's not how I interpreted the feat. I assumed the beam just erased everything it came into contract with in that huge area. Else there would be visible stars in front of the void where the omnidirectional blast did not hit.
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uh no that's not what I was asking
since blast's portals shifted the explosion from being omnidirectional to being a beam, can you calculate like the increase in speed that it would have resulted from the pressure, and therefore we'd know what the original explosion speed was since we know how much slower it should be
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Not even sure if you can do stuff like that for cosmic-level explosions honestly but I guess you could ask @Executor_N0 or @DontTalkDT since astronomy is more their cup of tea.
GodlyCharmander
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You assumed the 100m wide beam erased all in the 1 quadrillion kilometer space without expanding?.... Amazing, how does that work?
Or... the omnidirecional blast took all visible stars, which, even the closest is still lightyears away!!
GodlyCharmander
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I mean.
The explosion took place again in the hole, so just calculate it's size and assume a timeframe
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I was going to argue that the blast was expanding but at an angle but it isn't.
So I don't know, your interpretation doesn't make sense because the explosion would basically have to be right at the edge of the solar system for it to wipe out all the stars in that general direction or else there would be stars visble in the area in front of where the deletion happened. However the radius of the explosion is very far away from the solar system position because the deletion sphere is 3D. I really hope I'm not confusing and this makes sense.
GodlyCharmander
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?...
It wouldn't.
The epicenter can be anywhere as long as the radius is large enough to consume all visible stars.
I believe you're confused.
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No, impossible. The deletion zone is a sphere, so we can measure the radius of the void, then we can deduce that the radius of the void towards us is much smaller than the distance between us and the void because of perspective.
GodlyCharmander
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What?
Yes, the radius of a sphere in the distance is smaller than the distance between us and said sphere. What does this has to do with anything?
The closest star is still several lightyears away from us.
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I think it’s perfectly reasonable to assume the beam eventually spread out over a much larger area the farther away it travelled resulting in the thousands of stars being destroyedas a result
lasers in real life do this as well which is why a laser pointer will appear to be much larger when cast on a distant surface.
how this would affect the AP is anyones guess
lasers in real life do this as well which is why a laser pointer will appear to be much larger when cast on a distant surface.
how this would affect the AP is anyones guess
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Because the radius is too small for it to reach earth, stars in front of the void would be visible. Several slight years is too small because that hole is far far bigger than that, and if it eradicted the closest star to us, the void would be significantly bigger from our perspective.
GodlyCharmander
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It really wouldn't. Also, the very fact the explosion is a sphere is more than enough evidence that the explosion expanded omnidirectionally, why are we having this discussion?
The radius would have to be ~16000 Lightyears to get all stars in our general direction. Problem is, we don't even know the distance between us and the hole, we can make assumptions, but they'd be nothing other than that, low end assumptions.
So we can take the fact it did erase all the visible stars and then calculate the distance.
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I feel like we don’t really need to care about all this, we should just calc the pressure increase to get the original speed and be done with it
in fact, it'd be more consistent for the explosion that launched them to have been faster than the clash itself since there wouldn't be more debate about blast and crew having been unable to react to it, but it still would be a few billion times ftl regardless
GodlyCharmander
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You can't calculate that, we're talking about energy here.
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so does explosion speeds increase with pressure or not
GodlyCharmander
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It is not measurable.
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Hmm let’s revisit this since I’m not quite sure we ever got to a conclusion
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heya, can i ask something about this? if the problem is that it was compressed and the velocity increased because of it, can't we just find the value if it was omni-directional?
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You can't because we have no idea of what the timeframe is
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If you were to use simple formulas like equation for continuity and formula for intensity, assuming Blast reduced 80% of the surface area to 20%, that is only a 5x increase in the energy output. SP2 was basically 0 on the exponential graph. Whether you choose the actual exponential value (in which case a single pass is far more than 5 times), or the values we use from Q's blog, they both scale far beyond that kinetic energy individually.
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is it really a problem for this situation? the feat itself is visibly happened instantly. it should be fine to use anywhere within 1 to 10 seconds. if so, why can't we just do it?
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Yes, because the attack was altered from a sphere to a beam through spatial manipulation. We have no idea what the original velocity was.
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oh. i thought you were saying it to the compressed version. so we can't assume a timeframe for the omni-directional version even though we know the distance and etc.
ok thx.
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send it to someone :d. or to the calc group. otherwise nearly not possible for it to get checked :dI did this but no one bothered to check.
