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Does the wiki treat reactions and perception speed differently?
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(Complete Saint Seiya verse Overhaul Part 1) - Perhaps one of the top 10 most ambitious overhauls to a verse in vswiki history?
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Has it been pointed out that it needs the 9th Sense to be at least FTL according to Episode G and Episode G Requiem?
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that's not even true, Aiolia has 3 separate FTL feats in G
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yes. somehow
Like DDM said
Perceiving all of reality is more akin to cosmic awareness rather than Immeasurable speed. only when it is shown that there exists a higher temporal dimension that introduces complex Time will it grants immeasurable speed (need confirmations from the verse to exist) and we seem to share the same thought on how it could just be a Range and such
furthermore, in BB's case, she was able to travel at any point in time in the multiverse/possibilities
Something I haven't seen in Saint Seiya.
the massive difference between the two is for BB's case she has more feat that further supports immeasurable speed.
this was taken from her profile but upon reading the CRT there is more to it than what the profile says and the more i read on that CRT the more this 1:1 comparison becomes bleak
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Yeah, with Dunamis, ergo 9th sense.
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oh? Aiolia has dunamis in chapter 4 does he?
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I'll come back to this later. Irl stuff
Might make a new thread for this though and just go wuth Toer 1 stuff and canon blog
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Yes, he always had part of the Keraunos
But if I'm not mistaken it's a translation error this from chapter 4, but not that it would prevent him from achieving this before. Since he always had the Keraunos.
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Actually tho, the dead 8th sense users in the classic do have time travel
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oh, then that could work as more evidence and preferably be added in the reasonings then.
Do you also happen to have the statement/scans and mechanics behind it?
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It's not a translation errorYes, he always had part of the Keraunos
But if I'm not mistaken it's a translation error this from chapter 4, but not that it would prevent him from achieving this before. Since he always had the Keraunos.
and I wouldn't equate a divine weapon to dunamis. It was made very clear the Titans dunamises (dunamii?) were sealed to Tartarus, that's why Aiolia and Shura lost Coeus' and Kreios' dunamii at the end of G.
Unless you're arguing Aiolia was born with access to Zeus' dunamis and not just his ability to wield lightning?
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Sir ovens= Thinks everything looks aite.
Executor No= Seemingly agreed with 5-D going on a long explanation about it.
LordGriffin= Canon blog Nep and 9th sense look fine+ Executor’s comments on 5-D are valid to him.
Medeus= Everything looks okay
Low 1-C soul and mind for 8th sense users looks like it passed
Canon Blog looks like it passes too
Everything else brought up in thus thread will be done in a new crt.
Executor No= Seemingly agreed with 5-D going on a long explanation about it.
LordGriffin= Canon blog Nep and 9th sense look fine+ Executor’s comments on 5-D are valid to him.
Medeus= Everything looks okay
Low 1-C soul and mind for 8th sense users looks like it passed
Canon Blog looks like it passes too
Everything else brought up in thus thread will be done in a new crt.
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But Zeus dunamis is his ability to wield lightning, that the Keraunos of Ceos (his actual full dunamis):
- Lamento por aquele que pretendia roubar a minha dunamis... Mas é você... Quem deve ficar com esta força... Que todo o poder de Keuranos em mim existente... Viva agora com o Leão de Ouro... E se torne sua força!
- Translation: Apologies for the one who intended to steal my dunamis.... But it is you... Who should take this power... That all of Keuranos' power existing in me... Live now with the Golden Lion... And become his strength!
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idk if that's entirely true, Zeus also has the ability to manipulate nothingness and chaos.
I do recall however Aiolos knows Aiolia was born with Zeus' lightning from volume 0
idk if you're wrong, but I also don't know if you're right.
I am however fine with not scaling any other Golds to Aiolia's speed, he's very clearly faster than them.
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@Dereck03 sorry for the wait, been busy with some exams.
I disagreed with the type 5 Acausality, the Type 2 NEP with information aspect, Dimensional Manipulation, and Type 1 Concept hax.
nothing in the type 5 Acausality arguments mention the characters become an unchangeable entity because they’re beyond causality, which is needed for the new standard.
NEP type 2 has nothing about being neither existing nor nonexistent, and nothing about information is stated to be nonexistent.
Dimensional Manipulation has no backing on it being dimensional manipulation beyond a statement of someone adapting to a dimension, which is just Reactive evolution, not DM.
Type 1 concept hax I don’t see any statements on Karma existing independent of reality so I’m asking for statements.
I disagreed with the type 5 Acausality, the Type 2 NEP with information aspect, Dimensional Manipulation, and Type 1 Concept hax.
nothing in the type 5 Acausality arguments mention the characters become an unchangeable entity because they’re beyond causality, which is needed for the new standard.
NEP type 2 has nothing about being neither existing nor nonexistent, and nothing about information is stated to be nonexistent.
Dimensional Manipulation has no backing on it being dimensional manipulation beyond a statement of someone adapting to a dimension, which is just Reactive evolution, not DM.
Type 1 concept hax I don’t see any statements on Karma existing independent of reality so I’m asking for statements.
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Regarding Tier 1, do you also disagree? Because there are already a lot of arguments against it and it seems controversial.
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karma binds Aiolia to Zeus which is independent of reality idk if that helps with the karma stuff
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I don’t care about the tier 1 stuff
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The "arguments" are mostly misinterpretations
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Multiple staff have given their opinion on tier 1
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I'm going to do all the hax in a new thread. I'm developing it at the moment. It'll probably be a bit before I release bitill send you a link when I do.
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After re-checking a bit the discussion i think the same tho i alrd disagreed with NEP 2, but will wait if the new thread address something new..
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This thread is concluded
Tier 1 is passed
And canon blog is passed
Tier 1 is passed
And canon blog is passed
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I was told to close this
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