Commander Shepard vs Hank J Wimbleton 0-7-0

[Stillwinston]

Still on the grind to find matches for Shepard, here we go.

• Speed is equalised
• Base Hank is being used
• Solider Shepard is being used. His tier 8 equipment is restricted
• Fight takes place in the streets of Tokyo
• Both are 20 metres apart
• SBA otherwise

I should go: 0

Knock it off!: 7

Incon: 0

Commander Shepard

We don't know how many the Collectors have stolen. Thousands, hundreds of thousands. It's not important. What matters is this: Not. One. More. That's what we can do here, today. It ends with us. They want to know what we're made of? I say we show them, on our terms. Let's bring our people...

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Hank J. Wimbleton

Hank, to Tricky after being revivedKnock it off! Hank J. Wimbleton is the primary anti-hero of the Madness Combat series, a lone figure who first departs to kill the Sheriff for no particular reason and goes on to kill hundreds in pursuit of his goals. Tier: 9-A | At least 9-A, higher with...

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[Peppersalt43]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Have you tried finding and getting any knowledgeable members on the verses their from here?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Usually @Comiphorous just shows up to these things

 

[Peppersalt43]

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[Oliver_de_jesus]

Shepard starts like? Hank will probably just go ahead as he shoots with his gun at Shepard's head and dodges everything throw at him.

 

[Peppersalt43]

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[Stillwinston]

Shepard starts like? Hank will probably just go ahead as he shoots with his gun at Shepard's head and dodges everything throw at him.

Shepard will start with Adrenaline Rush, its thought based and slows Shep's perception of time and amps his AP. Less likely he'll open with Concussive Shot, which has a degree of homing capability to it and floors/stuns people with comparable LS to Shepard.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Well, Hank can used his own Stat amp while Concussive Shot would be a problem if it hit Kank

is it a projectil physical(like bullet) or is an energy attack?

 

[Stillwinston]

Well, Hank can used his own Stat amp while Concussive Shot would be a problem if it hit Kank

is it a projectil physical(like bullet) or is an energy attack?

Its described as A massive blast that propels enemies with bone-crushing force. As well as An explosive shot knocks down and damages your opponents, leaving them open for additional attacks.

Here is a clip of it being used, as well as another one. The attack has a degree of homing capability to it. How skilled is Hank btw?

 

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[Oliver_de_jesus]

Its described as A massive blast that propels enemies with bone-crushing force. As well as An explosive shot knocks down and damages your opponents, leaving them open for additional attacks.

Here is a clip of it being used, as well as another one. The attack has a degree of homing capability to it.

Ok, is not a true problem in range distance

How skilled is Hank btw?

he's been used to fighting tens of trained agents at once without getting hit for most of the time, especially defeating enemies who would've been able to one-shot him. he's no stranger to handling sword amd energy attackes fighters given he's fought foes like Jesus and Tricky.

Also Hank has fought one alternate version of himself

 

[Stillwinston]

Fought an alternate version of himself? Lol funny you say that Shepard's fought a clone of himself actually.

I'll try and dig up the skill feat list for Shepard tomorrow, but he does have some pretty dang good feats such as being superior to Garrus Vakarian who spent over 24hrs held in a siege against three entire mercenary bands and mowing them down by the dozens and even disabled a gunship via sheer skill. The gunship does go to practically two shot Garrus at the end of the mission iirc.

 

[Stillwinston]

Okay so Shepard has quite an extensive list of feats to their name even before the first game. The default backgrounds is Earthborn with Sole Survivor iirc but I've included the other backgrounds there for the sake of it.

Spoiler: Backgrounds

Depending on player choice their background can include him being able to help defend and rally untrained fighters in the Skillian Blitz against a huge array of pirates and raiders and was stated to have "Held off enemy forces single handed until reinforcements arrived." when the defences were breached with the battle stated to have lasted for several hours and was awarded the star of terra, the system alliance's highest honor. (War Hero)

The second one (Sole Survivor) has Shepard surviving the Akuze incident, whereupon him and 50 other marines were attacked throughout the night by Thresher Maws. With an untold number of these beasts slaughtered the rest of them with Shepard being skilled enough to be able to save themselves out of that predicament in time against a then at the time unknown foe as humanity was still in the process of claiming planets.

The third one (Ruthless) had Shepard take part in the siege of Torfan, sometime after the Skillian Blitz. Whereupon the aforementioned Batarian fleet was dug in deep in an entrenched, underground bunker. The mission was an absolute meat grinder yet Shepard took the costs and completed the mission above all else.

Plus Shepard is also a graduate of the N7 program, which include the most elite of the systems alliance military that involves various tasks that are on par with US Army Rangers in outer space at the very least.

Spoiler: Mass Effect 1

Shepard thanks to one of those three backgrounds gets considered and later picked as the first ever human Spectre. The top agents of the Citadel Council. Its stated by Anderson (Shepard's mentor and the prior spectre potential) that "Spectres aren't made. They're born." Spectres draw their numbers from the Turians and Asari, the former are essentially the roman empire in space with their military doctrine and boot camp starting at age 15. The Asari are a race of aliens that live for a thousand years, with Asari Huntresses/Commandos spending at least 20 to 30 years early in life training in the art to start with and considered the best in a 1v1 or small scale battles against other races. One Turian general (Who's entire race is stupidly militarised to the point where they do government services) even said "The Asari are among the finest warriors in the galaxy, fortunately there are not many of them." Yet Shepard and his party can beat groups of these even as far back as the first game as shown with the Benezia bossfight.

Also in the Spectres are the Salarians. A race who helped create the very idea of Spectres with their entire military doctrine basically about being Agent 47 in space and ending battles before they even begin. There are also the Krogan , while they are not a council race they are basically Spartans in space with Urdnot Wrex who can be killed by Shepard having been stated to actually have killed a Thresher Maw in a 1v1 as part of his proving trails for his clan.

To add to the feats with Urdnot Wrex he's implied to have lived close to 1000 years and is credited as one of the last few Battlemasters who are stated to be more than a match for 10 soldiers of any other race. Plus he was skilled enough to escape an ambush and killed his father who performed in it the same night. The only time Wrex seemed to have come close to defeat was a battle with an Asari Commando and even that ended in a stalemate along with a looot of collateral damage.

Spoiler: Mass Effect 2

Shepard is far superior in skill to Turian squadmate Garrus Vakarian. Who in addition to undergoing the military training customary to his race (iirc he was from the Turian main homeworld) was a skilled marksman who can casually bust out several headshots in quick succession. Garrus was at one point also considered as a spectre candidate but was forbidden by his father from joining but depending on player choice can either go back to C-Sec or apply to be a spectre.

When 2 rolled around following Shepard's death Garrus travelled to Omega. A place that is basically ran only by crime where he proceeded to become the vigilante known as Archangel who proceeded to take the fight to several mercenary bands. Garrus was betrayed by one of his team and was bogged down by three of the groups. Yet Garrus still performed feats such as shooting a gunship and dismantling it with the merc basically stating Garrus stomped them via sheer skill. Garrus was camped there for hours upon end mowing down and funnelling the mercs while they returned fire at him. With him doing this for over a day with little to no pauses. While it was ultimately required for Shepard to save him Garrus still has the wherewithal to recognise them in the heat of battle after all that and still take part in several pitched firefights before being injured.

Shepard is acknowledged as the leader and superior of Grunt. Said being is a Krogan that was genetically engineered from birth to be the ultimate Krogan by a mad scientist named Dr Okeer, Grunt was implanted with the history of various Krogan warlords with their battle experience and later in his loyalty mission can defeat a Thresher Maw alongside Shepard and another squadmate which results in Grunt becoming the leader of an elite unit of Krogan later in 3. Keep in mind that the Krogan operate in an entirely Spartan like society with Grunt earning this through proving himself.

2's endgame also has Shepard finally raiding the base of the Collectors, a mission that is referred to many times as a suicide mission that can result in the permadeath of Shepard and the rest of his crew. Yet Shepard can pull the mission off with no squad deaths at all. One squad member can be counted on to bring back the entire crew of the Normandy who are non-combatants back to the forcibly grounded ship deep in enemy territory during the mission and can survive if loyal i.e entirely focused on the mission. This includes even the weakest like Mordin who was a Salarian doctor and ex STG agent that was in the twilight years of his life and even admitted the front line wasn't his direct speciality but can still kill a Krogan with a well placed pitchfork despite the height and build difference.

Spoiler: Mass Effect 3

By this point in time the Reaper War begins, with the Reapers being a race of gigantic mecha ctihulus that purge the galaxy of almost all organic life every 50'000 years citing Shepard as the one true threat to their task having killed one of them in ME1 after damaging them through killing their Saren Husk. With all the races in the galaxy looking to Shepard to lead them in the struggle against them.

Shepard is able to defeat and kill Kai Leng. As much of a cringey Raiden/Nightwing knockoff that he is Kai is able to kill a Krogan with just a normal army knife (For reference Krogan possess secondary vital organs among other physical benefits that make fighting them in melee a hard sell.) Kai was also able to defeat a weakened Thane Krios, a squadmate in 2 who is credited as among the greatest assassins in the galaxy. Thane started his training at the age of 6 and killed at 12 years old and has plied this trade ever since. Thane developed a list of techniques tailor made to take out each race should they be his target. He was capable of performing a clean headshot on a merc around civilians with Garrus even commenting on it being impressive. He did all of Mass Effect 2 while terminally ill from Kepral's Syndrome. And with less than 50 percent lung capacity. In 3 he still gives Kai Leng one heck of a fight despite needing constant medical aid and was well past his life expectancy by that time.

The other major skill feats for 3 that I can think of is in the Citadel DLC, whereupon Shepard fights a clone of themselves. Said clone uses the exact same major power as them and is skilled enough to actually blast the gun out of the hands of the real deal yet still ultimately loses the fight. There is also the Armax Arena challenges which can have Shepard be proven as the number 1 fighter in the galaxy, said rankings include Aria who was the main leader of Omega and James Vega who also goes through the N7 program and fights alongside Shepard in 3.

For the TLDR

• Shepard has at least a decade of military experience and has done training comparable to US army rangers
• Shepard was considered the best of his species by essentially the united nations of the galaxy for their elite top agents. Which include races like Asari that can live for 1000 years who's commandos are considered the best in a 1v1 against other races and can have decades to centuries of combat experience. Yet Shepard and his squad can fodderise these soldiers even in the first game.
• Shepard is superior to the likes of Turians. Who's race is stupidly militarized to the point where their military is also the police and the fire department etc and their training begins at the age of 15 and are essential Ancient Rome in space.
• Garrus, a Turian squadmate of Shepard was considered as a spectre also and spent over 24 hours waging a siege against three entire merc bands and held against them and a gunship which eventually two shotted him.
• Shepard can fodderise Krogans, who's entire race are essentially Spartan Hoplites in space that can live up to 1000 years with their most elite battlemasters being stated to solo ten soldiers of any other race.

 

[Comiphorous]

Hank's skill is ******* goofy.

basically, he's comparable to someone who ran through an entire science facility with essencially infinite soldiers specifically trained to fight and kill dozens of soldiers at the same exact time, with said soldiers they're trained against going through the same exact training.

Said person he's comparable to was able to defeat and kill the strongest nevadean to ever live, aka, Director Phobos, a man so powerful the only way anyone even stood a single chance against him was using a reality warping madness inducing device which warped the laws of physics, and even then it was far from even with Phobos.

Even fodder nevadeans are known for their competency in combat, being basically the only thing they really know.

I'll continue this later, but he has more.

 

[Comiphorous]

Also, just to note, Hank's profile is a little outdated, and is missing a few things and a few of his ratings are off (Mostly his intelligence and LS)

 

[Stillwinston]

Hnnnnn not bad lol, doubt LS would change anything tbh these guys are likely to just fight at a distance anyway from what I'm seeing.

Krogans in Mass Effect even the fodder ones are known to be basically born and bred for fighting, to the point where their home planet is basically something like this. As part of their initiations they have to undergo a rite, which is essentially fighting off waves of Tuchanka's predators, which includes Thresher Maws which can devour and oneshot them. Shepard can fodderise these beings on the regular, one of them Urdnot Wrex killed a Thresher Maw. On foot and by himself.

 

[Comiphorous]

Hnnnnn not bad lol, doubt LS would change anything tbh these guys are likely to just fight at a distance anyway from what I'm seeing.

Krogans in Mass Effect even the fodder ones are known to be basically born and bred for fighting, to the point where their home planet is basically something like this. As part of their initiations they have to undergo a rite, which is essentially fighting off waves of Tuchanka's predators, which includes Thresher Maws which can devour and oneshot them. Shepard can fodderise these beings on the regular, one of them Urdnot Wrex killed a Thresher Maw. On foot and by himself.

their skill feats feel very similar. both seem to kill hordes of soldiers/enemies that are hella skilled that can one shot each other.

 

[Comiphorous]

So from what i'm seeing;

Both are roughly equal in skill. their skill feats are strangely similar with them killing hordes of skilled soldiers by themselves.

what hank REALLY excells at is his survivability. the chances of Shepard being able to keep Hank down is so small it's not even funny. the dude can survive half of his head being blown off, being stabbed through the throat, being shot across his body, and even after all that he has about 4-5 resurrections from the higher powers.

shepard is gonna have a hard time putting this guy down a handful of times. Shepard seems to have one life he can use to kill hank, while hank has 5 to kill shepard.

 

[Stillwinston]

So from what i'm seeing;

Both are roughly equal in skill. their skill feats are strangely similar with them killing hordes of skilled soldiers by themselves.

Yeah I'm getting those vibes fr lol

what hank REALLY excells at is his survivability. the chances of Shepard being able to keep Hank down is so small it's not even funny. the dude can survive half of his head being blown off, being stabbed through the throat, being shot across his body, and even after all that he has about 4-5 resurrections from the higher powers.

shepard is gonna have a hard time putting this guy down a handful of times. Shepard seems to have one life he can use to kill hank, while hank has 5 to kill shepard.

Shepard has medi gel which can keep him in the fight, as well as Immunity to reduce damage taken. For putting Hank down that is impressive pain tolerance from taking hits ngl, however Shepard's ammo types can come into play there such as Cryo ammo which can freeze you solid with just a few shots that can have you be shattered with a follow up concussive shot for example. Incendiary ammo which can reduce you to ashes after enough shots might help also there.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

What other ammo types are there?

 

[Stillwinston]

He has Armor Piercing and Shredder types, they do more damage to armoured or organic targets basically. Warp and Disruptor won't do much here as Hank has no forcefields or is a synthetic. Should say Shep can switch ammo types with just a button press on his gun btw

 

[Comiphorous]

Shepard has medi gel which can keep him in the fight, as well as Immunity to reduce damage taken. For putting Hank down that is impressive pain tolerance from taking hits ngl, however Shepard's ammo types can come into play there such as Cryo ammo which can freeze you solid with just a few shots that can have you be shattered with a follow up concussive shot for example. Incendiary ammo which can reduce you to ashes after enough shots might help also there.

The problem is with hank's instinctive reaction, it's going to be near impossible for Shepard to actually hit the bastard, along with hank's bullet time which gives him a huge reaction speed boost which leaves people moving slower than a snail.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The problem is with hank's instinctive reaction, it's going to be near impossible for Shepard to actually hit the bastard, along with hank's bullet time which gives him a huge reaction speed boost which leaves people moving slower than a snail.

Are you talking about that meter thing forgot what it was called.

I do know that the zombies can ignore it though

 

[Comiphorous]

Are you talking about that meter thing forgot what it was called.

I do know that the zombies can ignore it though

Zombies negating is a special mechanic for zombies, it's not a weakness to the tac bar.

 

[Stillwinston]

What's the limit on that tac bar thing?