Cole MacGrath Vs. Quagsire

[Bobsican]

Can you give details about Thunderstorm? It doesn´t seem to be explained in his profile unlike other powers.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Can you give details about Thunderstorm? It doesn´t seem to be explained in his profile unlike other powers.

He creates a massive thunderstorm that comes barreling in and pushes the rest of the weather aside. It's listed as Lightning Strike or something like that.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Found it, it's Ionic Storm.

 

[Bobsican]

Thunderstorms and raining come form the same sort of clouds, so there´s nothing preventing from both just happening at once.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Thunderstorms and raining come form the same sort of clouds, so there´s nothing preventing from both just happening at once.

Pretty sure Ionic Storm has been shown to push away other clouds, even rainstorms. And what's rain dance going to do anyways? His napalm is practically useless in this fight already.

 

[Bobsican]

Rain Dance forces a raining weather in seconds, he can also just use it again to move away the Thunderstorm, as it can push away other weather conditions like hail, also allowing Quagsire to passively heal via Water Absorb.

Note that raining boosts the power of water attacks, something that can help a lot Quagsire in here.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Rain Dance forces a raining weather in seconds, he can also just use it again to move away the Thunderstorm, as it can push away other weather conditions like hail, also allowing Quagsire to passively heal via Water Absorb.

At that point they're just pushing back and forth between different kinds of storms. They just keep going until one of them says "screw it, this isn't going anywhere."

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...Water Absorb doesn't heal in rain. Only Dry Skin does.

 

[Bobsican]

...Water Absorb doesn't heal in rain. Only Dry Skin does.

Isn´t that game mechanics?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

.*shrugs*

 

[Bobsican]

.*shrugs*

Just checked, it definitely is game mechanics

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Just checked, it definitely is game mechanics

We don't use other wikis as sources here.

 

[Bobsican]

Source? Just look at the anime section, a Wooper healed its injury by just getting some water on.

Also, we link that site in the verse page for a reason.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Source? Just look at the anime section, a Wooper healed its injury by just getting some water on.

Also, we link that site in the verse page for a reason.

Fair enough.

 

[Bobsican]

Anything left to discuss?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Anything left to discuss?

Nope. Cole still wins for all the reasons I've outlined.

 

[Bobsican]

Okay.

Counting votes now.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Is Cal going to vote or is he just here to clear up misconceptions?

 

[Bobsican]

Likely the latter, I mean, he didn´t vote in the Cole Vs. Pikachu thread, even while being more than aware of its existance.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Cole FRA

 

[Bobsican]

Updated.

Also, now that Cole can´t just drain the electricity of Quagsire as it has been pretty much agreed on at this point, what other ways Cole has to dispatch Quagsire?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Updated.

Also, now that Cole can´t just drain the electricity of Quagsire as it has been pretty much agreed on at this point, what other ways Cole has to dispatch Quagsire?

Hitting him until he dies. His electric attacks still do damage as Cole has shown to be able to bypass resistance. I also feel like Schnee and Neo are also voting for Cole.

 

[Bobsican]

Then again, Quagsire can make himself even more resistant to electricity by using Mud Sport.

I can´t add Garg and Neo´s votes until they actually say it however.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Then again, Quagsire can make himself even more resistant to electricity by using Mud Sport.

I can´t add Garg and Neo´s votes until they actually say it however.

Neo outright said "Cole FRA".

 

[Bobsican]

Oops, adding vote...

 

[Bobsican]

Bump.

 

[Jasonsith]

How strong is Cole's energy attack besides electricity attacks?

If not substantially lower then Cole used (kinetic) energy ball on Quagsire and the king of mud fainted before it mud bombs Cole.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

How strong is Cole's energy attack besides electricity attacks?

If not substantially lower then Cole used (kinetic) energy ball on Quagsire and the king of mud fainted before it mud bombs Cole.

Pretty much equal really.

 

[Bobsican]

If not substantially lower then Cole used (kinetic) energy ball on Quagsire and the king of mud fainted before it mud bombs Cole.

Pretty sure verse equalization doesn´t go up to that degree.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Pretty sure verse equalization doesn´t go up to that degree.

It's not verse equalization. Some of Cole's attacks function on kinetic energy rather than electricity, meaning it could bypass type resistance.

 

[Bobsican]

I mean, there´s a move in Pokémo called Energy Ball, which is a grass type move, which Quagsire has a super weakness to.

In that case, that move is an explosion or what exactly?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

It's the weird thing about Pokemon. If you hit a pokemon with a metal pipe is it a steel type attack? Some attacks mesh between kinetic and actual energy. That said the only thing I can imagine Quagsire negates is being electrocuted. Draining I'm still on the fence on. But kinetic force? That's fair game.

A good chunk of Cole's attacks are explosions.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

One of Quagsire's other abilities are Damp, iirc. Things literally can't explode when Quagsire is present.

 

[Chartate101]

Is this a stomp?

 

[Bobsican]

Quagsire stomps?!

Maybe if we changed to Good Cole?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Damp is implied to work by preventing explosions and self destructions. Not shockwaves and electromagnetic orbs from exploding. If anything making things wet would make things more problematic... usually, if not for him being immune to being electrocuted.

 

[Schnee_One]

Quagsire stomps?!

Maybe if we changed to Good Cole?

No one said Quagsire stomps

 

[Chartate101]

One of Quagsire's other abilities are Damp, iirc. Things literally can't explode when Quagsire is present.

Damp only stops self destructing moves

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Is this a stomp?

Heck no.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Damp is implied to work by preventing explosions and self destructions. Not shockwaves and electromagnetic orbs from exploding. If anything making things wet would make things more problematic... usually, if not for him being immune to being electrocuted.

It's a good thing Cole can hurt and kill people who are resistant to electric attacks with his electric attacks or that might be more of an issue.