Clown vs Clown's Boss

[Mr._Redic]

You calculated subsonic timeframes from gameplay-derived distance.

I'm not saying they can resist any physical ability like wish/reality warping/physical magic, you keep bringing that up like I'm disagreeing with you about that, but this is objectively just supernatural mindhax that can be resisted by normal willpower.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yes. Because a map isn't game mechanics. The game mechanics part of it is how far they move- which has no reason to be disbelieved.

The same willpower allows them to resist fate hax and reality warping. You cannot pick and choose and say "well this should be applied because I feel like it".

 

[Phoenix821]

Even if it did when did the Auditor show strong will power?

 

[Mr._Redic]

4 foot and 8 foot characters would not have the same range if they had the same speed. It is entierly gameplay-derived.

The ridiculousness of D&D that allows normal people to resist reality warping doesn't change the nature of its supernatural mindhax of one guy trying to control another and getting resistance by willpower, which is not unique to D&D no matter how dumb they get with their version of willpower and its capabilties, it's virtually the standard by which nearly every fiction with weak mind control operates by.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

No it isn't.

That's true. Using willpower as resistance is not unique to D&D. However, unless the character shows that ability, they don't have it. Bring me the Auditor displaying that ability- to resist mind control through willpower.

 

[Mr._Redic]

FIne, you win, I vote for the Nilbog.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I'm not debating the win for the Nilbog. It doesn't matter who you vote for so long as your reasoning is reasoable. What is your reason for voting for Nilbog?

 

[Mr._Redic]

I believe the Auditor will eventually return to a normal state, since he seems to have reurned to a normal size, and even if he wouldn't return to normal, his strongest known state of absorbtion was still unable to overpower wall level Hank.

So Niblog wins.