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Clark vs Stark: Iron vs Steel.

So basically Superman has no wincon then. Iron Man has an answer to quite literally everything. Sure, he has 6C durability but that doesn't matter if Superman can't even touch him.
 
Schnee One said:
Why can't he touch him?

Why can't Supes use heat vision
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Because Tony absorbs kinetic energy and use it as an Amp.

Because Tony resists and absorbs thermal energy, it also amps him.

Literally any physical atemp that carries energy, even a meangless quantity, can be use as an amp.
 
AZ can be nulled by anything that makes atoms obtain motion, regaining their kinect energy, can be from radiation to just pure vibration. Matching it with heat is not hard at all.
 
That's not how Absolute Zero works at all in fiction

That reasoning is why AZ is impossible to achieve in real life

If a person can generate AZ in a normal environment, introducing heat alone isn't going to change it
 
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2996441

"There is an enormous difference between directly lowering your opponent's body heat to AZ and hitting them with an attack that is AZ. This is because an Absolute Zero object, upon hitting anything that has heat, would actually absorb its heat, thus ceasing to be an AZ object. While it would undoubtedly kill a normal human, that would be because our body heat isn't sufficient to heat it up to levels we can withstand. If you were strong enough to throw an Absolute-Zero baseball at the Sun, it wouldn't make any noticeable difference."

So I know this isn't exactly the same, but if AZ is negated by heat then Supes matching it with his heat vision doesn't seem like that much of a feat.
 
I don't see anything related to it though

It absorbs the heat and dies out, but the heat continues from Supermans heat vision, check the scan.
 
Oh I thought we were talking about freeze breath. But it seems that there are different views on how heat vision will work on Tony so I'll wait until it's decided how it works.
 
The Wright Way said:
But, if Clark's heat vision melts AZ then what good is AZ?
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Clark's heat vision can match AZ but it doesn't beat it. So IM can still use AZ to cancel out the heat vision.
 
What good is everything Dragon stated then?

If he brought up that heat matching it isn't impressive but AZ apparently also counters it.
 
So Superman's wincon is getting to Tony's 6C durability. Can someone explain how he can do this? I'm reading Tony's abilities and there is nothing that suggests Superman can get through any of what Tony has. This looks just like Thor vs Superman where Clark's opponent has an answer to literally everything plus other abilities.
 
The fact that Tony can absorb kinetic energy means that nearly no form of physical attack will be able to damage him at all, unless Clark somehow manage to overpowerer it

Tony is able to casually draw energy from Sentry back then with Extremis.

Prime makes Extremis look like a AA battery to a Nuclear Plant when it comes to energy manipulation thanks ZPE shenanigans
 
Honestly, this looks stompish. Supes can't do much here and essentially has no win condition while Tony has many and has an option for everything Supes has.
 
The Hulkbuster? That version lacks resistance to phasing iirc, but has nearly everything else.

Seriously, Boogy didn't even tried to separate the powers to each key, and just added a cluster funk.
 
Boogy@ And you think that randomly putting powers left and right is better? Keys are also mean to denote the capabilities of each version of the character, you can't put so many powers to someone with a bunch of keys without specifying what dot goes to what dot.

Wright@ Tony still KE absorbs and zero point energy nulls.

How much is Sups willing to go Vision in character?
 
@Newendigo

DarkDragonMedeus said: Yeah, it's not worth making keys for every single Iron Man armor, especially since we really don't know many notable feats for some of the suits; but most the abilities seem fine to add to the Model 51.
 
Newendigo said:
Boogy@ And you think that randomly putting powers left and right is better? Keys are also mean to denote the capabilities of each version of the character, you can't put so many powers to someone with a bunch of keys without specifying what dot goes to what dot.
Wright@ Tony still KE absorbs and zero point energy nulls.

How much is Sups willing to go Vision in character?
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Superman uses heat vision alot in character, If he sees that Tony is able to overpower him his main thing is to zip around attempting to blitz his opponent with heat vision.
 
Boogy@ He said that to your plan of adding every single armor to Iron man (Even the Ultimate) without notable feats worth to add it.

Papi@ The vision thing was a joke, I meant is he willing to go intagible in character?
 
Newendigo@ Pretty sure he is willing, Seeing that if his opponent can pretty much counter anything he throws at him. He might try to just force Tony to use up alot of his power in one big blast and just go intangible through it, If he even can.
 
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