Cinder vs Kakine

[Golden_Void]

Base 7B forms

20 meters distance

SBA

Speed Equal

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kakine_Teitoku

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall

.*Tips hat and walks out the room*.

 

[Schnee_One]

Post Revival Kakine?

 

[Kaltias]

No, Base

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Isn't that the one that beat this dude?

 

[Schnee_One]

I dunno check the page.

Cinder blitzes.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

@Kal I see.

 

[Golden_Void]

Forgot to add speed equal oops

 

[LordAizenSama]

Kakine via far,far superior intelligence, better power adaptability/versatility and battle tactics.

 

[Kaltias]

Has Kakine fought base post-headshot or pre-headshot Accell?

 

[LordAizenSama]

Post

 

[Kaltias]

Ok. Cinder does seem to have a pretty significant AP advantage given that she is backwards scaled from 7-A/7-B+ people while Accell (And consequently Kakine) seems around baseline. Not voting yet tho

 

[Schnee_One]

That would be roughly 6 times stronger.

 

[LordAizenSama]

This is base cinder though. So she would be around mid 7B. Kakine is around base 7B so she would have roughly 3x ap advantage. More or less.

 

[Kaltias]

Base Cinder is more scaled as "significantly weaker than her half Maiden power self, but not overwhelmingly so" (due to still being able to fight a weakened Amber), with Half Maiden Cinder being 84 megatons, which is over 13 times above baseline.

 

[LordAizenSama]

For some reason I thought city lvl began at 10MT.

Seeing as cinder doesnt have the + here she would be.. 45MT at most. I think.

Backwards powerscaling is quite dodgy. Significantly weaker means we dont really know how far she falls into the lowerend of city level.

At worst she is = Kakine, at best she is about... 8x stronger.

 

[Schnee_One]

If she's around Kakine's level, then Kakine for Aizen's reasons.

If not, Cinder for massive AP and Dura+Her aura.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Even with a decent ap advantage I cant see Cinder dealing with Kakine who has no problem taking to the sky and rendering cinder pretty helpless on the ground besides her arrows. Which can be dodged easily enough

 

[Kaltias]

She should still be near to City+ (although below that), if the gap between her and Amber was over 4-5 times she wouldn't have damaged her at all.

So probably still enough to one shot a baseline

 

[LazyHunter]

Pre-revival Kakine is almost as arrogant as Post-revival, except without the bs regen and immortality to back it up. During fights he relies on somehow tanking attacks via Dark Matter (Is he enhancing his body? Covering himself with a thin invisible DM field? Who knows?) But besides being able to bat away Meltdowner beams it doesn't seem to have any especial properties, so enough AP should do the trick and Cinder has the AP to easily kill him. Remember, Accelerator wasn't really taking him seriously during their first fight, and once he figured out DM Kakine went down in the next exchange of blows.

Besides, Kakine in character will go for CQC and there Cinder has the definitive advantage in experience and combat skill.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah, going with Cinder for my previous reasons.