>New feats & statements =//= an amp/ powerup, unless you consider statements a powerup, which they are not.
They are. They just have less priority than actual feats. Statements can absolutely be used as amps, provided that feats don't contradict them and deem them unreliable. And in this case, we're talking about statements about a general species of what an alien can do. That is far more consistent than the few lower end feats Way Big had previously, especially when this gives new information on what his species can do.
>I'm not denying Way Big is 5-A, I'm just saying he was never amped / powered up to become 5-A.
Your really not understanding this. The statements on To'kustar's are Way Big's power ups. The new info we got on To'kustar's takes Way Big, an alien we had 0 info about with his lower end feats previously, to a new level of power of what he can actually do. Why? Because even the weaker members of his species can do feats far beyond what he previously displayed. His species feats >>> Way Bigs previous feats as the consistent display of feats for him.
>We also got new information about Maltruent, about him being more powerful than guys like Malware, so not seeing how the same reasoning doesnt apply
False equivalance. Performing random feats outside of your consistent portrayls doesnt give you "new information" about you. In Way Bigs case, again, we are given new context and lore about what his general species is capable of accomplishing, which becomes the priority of consistency for Way Big.
For Malware to be given amps/powerups, he'd have to be established as having done training, gaining new stronger forms, or be given new details about his strength as the story progresses. Not jumping in with a random high level feat out of nowhere. This is how we seperate legitimate upgrades from outlier feats.
>Common sense also tells us "the most powerful bad guy" refers to raw power considering amped Vilgax only uses raw power.
Or Ben was just bullshiting when making that statement. Or Maltruents so powerful because of his tactics as a villain. Characters commonly make statements like these, but without some specific evidence, it's taken as a grain of salt.
>We can see Ken physically struggling to break free of Maltruant's grasp, and hear him talk, meaning Maltruent was not using his time power to physically restrain Ken, until Maltruent went to Ben and Rook.
That takes away the point of him even being 5-A from this "feat" then. Maltruent was doing that for like 3 seconds and then froze him with his time hax. Why need to do that if he could physically restrain him?
>In the next episode we even see Ken's head is hurting,and him being so injured he needs to be carried away by future Ben. Maltruent freezing Ken wouldnt had injured him, as we can clearly see future Ben, his wife and Gwen being completely fine despite haven been frozen for much longer. The only way Maltruent could have injured 5-A Spanner is by being 5-A
Being frozen in time basically makes your body entirely limp. And Spanner was thrown around like a rag doll while being frozen. It would make sense on why he'd be fatigue. Making someone tired out from fighting is not a feat of harming them.
Also, im starting to question why Ken is even considered 5-A in the first place. On his page, Ken is 5-A for fighting Dr. Animo. But Dr. Animo is 5-A for fighting Four Arms 10,000. And Four Arms 10,000 is 5-A for harming Future Kevin 11,000. Yet, Future Kevin is 5-A for...fighting Four Arms 10,000? Where is the 5-A feat being used to scale here? This is literally nothing but circular reasoning.
>Outlier do not apply to characters at the top of the food chain of a series.
And it's a good thing he isn't a top of the food chain character in Ben 10.
>yes because that's what clockwork did lamo and that's still dosn't explain why he didn't use his Time manipulation against Malturant
Clockwork reversed time after the time bomb did it's job, not while it was in use. And again, read what I said before. There are different applications of time hax and as far as time ripples go, IIRC Alien X in general has no time manipulation in that manner.
>yes it does, Alien x does have EE, the fact that Atomic x didn't even try to use EE against the CTB already proves he doesn't have EE like alien x
Or, again, it wasnt used because it wasnt strong enough to defeat the timebombs EE. Your assuming him not using it is him not having it in the first place, which is a bigger leap in logic than just concluding it was weaker EE. Your relying on this nonexistent notion of Atomic X not having the same abilities as an alien being used to make what Atomic X is in order to keep an upgrade alive.
> according to your logic anime Mewtwo isn't 5-B because he fodderized Ash and his Pokémon.
Mewtwo isn't 5-B because of anything like that. He's 5-B for blatantly fighting 5-B pokemon, which are the consistent feats he has. >
> Also I can agree with you on "downgrading everyone to 7-A" after all that nice feat you mentioned there for Way Big isn't canon
I seriously doubt its not canon or else it wouldnt have been accepted in the first place.
