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Hit FRA
Killerdrone123
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Yeah hit time stops and gg
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Isn't the whole point of Zeno to be above everything else in the Dragon Ball multiverse? Jiren literally physically dealt with Hit's time cage and he's still weaker than the angels. Hell, Future Zeno even erased a timeline to a point that it bypassed the Time Rings' resistance to it; Zeno would know how to deal with time. What's stopping Zeno from stomping due to literally being above every important god in the multiverse, let alone a random mortal like Hit?
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He is
You'd think so
VBW
He.... factually has no way to counter hit based on his profile
RoninSlayer200
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Hit winning against Zeno feels fundamentally wrong
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I don't care if this is even Comicvine; we're talking about Dragon Ball, a series where answers to hax boil down to "lol just be stronger" (as Super can very much attest).
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I'm sticking with Zeno. I ain't voting based on people wanking a mortal based on their lack of understanding of how the series worked.
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People really think that Wiki rules > Verse's own logic.
Then we wonder why this place gets clowned.
Then we wonder why this place gets clowned.
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Exactly. If profiles are a gospel, why is it that people ask for characters' battle tactics?
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People seriously think that Hit's power is enough to even remotely scratch Zeno, let alone hit his pressure points.
You guys are embarassing.
You guys are embarassing.
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Right? I literally brought up Jiren, who if I recall correctly had characters stating that he's stronger than time when he handled Hit's Time Cage, and this isn't bringing up the Angels whose strength still remains unattainable to this day.
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People gonna seriously say "Whis does not have resistance to pressure points, so Hit wins" like, tf...
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no one actually thinks hit can beat zeno they just trying to prove zeno has resistance to whatever stuff hit has
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You do realize THIS is the point of this thread yea? To show how stupid his profile is? and how detached from the actual verse logic it is?
That you can't even make any argument from Zeno's profile, to say how he beats Hit and have to go to the verse's oown narrative and ignore his profile IS the point
You can't actually make any argument for Zeno here under this sites versus rules
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I am actually surprised this slipped passed them
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you are the one making yourself look stupid by doing this
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And yet
Zeno still doesn't beat hit based on this site's wiki's refusal to give him reassurances, infact...it seems like a stomp for hit
So, If you say so, that's your opinion
The point is being proven
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no its not
Fezzih_007
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Which gonna do nothing, yeah.
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Zeno's profile having no resistance to Time Stop or Dura neg is crazy 
Killerdrone123
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Exactly the point of the threadZeno's profile having no resistance to Time Stop or Dura neg is crazy
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Mate, the site doesn't let you add in matchups that leaves no room for debate including satirical matchups. Our better Vs debates had people only seeing profiles as a guideline rather than a hard-coded rule.
AizenBankai09
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It all comes down to our rules, we can't just slap resistances on profile just because there might be a chance according to the verse, otherwise all profiles would have a shitton of guesswork abilities and resistances.
Hit's timeskip wouldn't work on anyone stronger than him anyway, it's his own weakness, so Zeno is just stronger than that, can't be touched because of durability, which is for sure so high not even internal attacks can harm it.
Hit's dura neg is very limited, it's similar to characters sending shockwaves inside the opponent's body, bypassing skin, muscles and bones, but it's totally magic based.
Hit's timeskip wouldn't work on anyone stronger than him anyway, it's his own weakness, so Zeno is just stronger than that, can't be touched because of durability, which is for sure so high not even internal attacks can harm it.
Hit's dura neg is very limited, it's similar to characters sending shockwaves inside the opponent's body, bypassing skin, muscles and bones, but it's totally magic based.
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This isn't just some powerful guy, he's basically the god of the multiverse, there is no one above him (unless you enter Dr Slump territory)
Wrong, this is a weakness of manga hit, it has nothing to do with the anime version
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I literally explained this before you and that somehow got ignored. Even Hakai, the DB verse's best hax, is still bound by strength (as Frieza overpowered a casual handful of Hakai), skill (as Toppo's Hakai always took on a physical form), or both. Our verse equalization rule would have bound Hit and Zeno to DB-verse rules anyway.
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Hit literally had to push his handling of time because Goku found a workaround back in the U7 vs U6 tournament in the anime; pretty sure that weakness still applies.
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This thread will either end up proving haxed characters in dragon ball are broken, or that Zeno deserves a major resistance overhaul, pick your poison igZeno's profile having no resistance to Time Stop or Dura neg is crazy
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zeno should have sex manipulation
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This was skill and speed based. Hit's time abilities didn't start getting overpowered until his rematch with Goku, (Goku destroyed his pocket dimension so it's not really overpowering the time stop/skip), and Jiren overpowering his time cage, which was seen as something super note worthy that even an angel commented on it.
Anyway Hit should stomp because Zeno doesn't have resistances to time skip/time stop on his profile
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Mods sign him up for the draft under a fake name
Fezzih_007
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He don't need, Hit can't harm Zeno with his Dura neg.
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Proof? Zeno doesn't have that resistance on his profile
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3rd option: DB hax are all trash and can all be resisted from just having more ki.
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Hit's time skip went from a tenth of a second to a half a second during his first fight with Goku alone. Also, it was implied that Hit had his time stop before the rematch when Hit literally asked if killing is allowed (time stop is his killing technique btw).
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