Question for you specifically.
I've seen your thread regarding on how weakened would Pochita to scale to the full AP of the Bat Devil due to the fact that he can defeat all the hybrids, but this seems to entail that the hybrids > the full AP of the Bat Devil. How is this the case? What did they do?
The idea of the thread is that a select few Mid Tiers and some High Tiers are stronger than the Bat Devil’s full AP. Mid tiers, like Quanxi, Reze and Katana Man, consistently show they’re far above the baseline 8.04 Tons of TNT. For example, Quanxi has blocked attacks from Pochita’s clone and even managed to harm him, which is an impressive feat for her scaling chain considering the clone is way stronger than the Bat Devil and can one shot character's who scale leagues above him as well. Take Reze and Katana Man, both been able to fatally damage
a stronger version of Chainsaw Man, who is superior to his pre-training counterpart, who could survive a part of the Bat Devil’s sonic attack,
but was damaged so badly that he chose to regenerate. Then there’s Santa Claus in her night form, powered by a piece of flesh from the Darkness Devil and the Blood Devil, whose abilities scale way above the Bat Devil thanks to having the same power source (and probably an even stronger one) as a Weakened Pochita.
It all ties back to how fear scaling works in general. Makima scales because she can one-shot a Weakened Pochita, who far out scales the full AP of the blast.
That was the summary of that thread. However, new scaling in the near future will propose that anyone scaling to Post-Training Chainsaw Man will also scale to the full AP of the Bat Devil. Why? Because of Kishibe’s daily and then weekly training sessions, Chainsaw Man went from struggling to take the Bat Devil’s sonic attack head on to
being able to tank punches from beings far stronger, like a Darkness-empowered Santa Claus. Santa Claus scales to transformed Quanxi’s arrows, which can pierce through a Weakened Pochita, who in turn,
was strong enough to physically snap those arrows like twigs. I’m not going to explain the scaling fully yet, but that’s the basis of the scaling to come.
Also, if the Falling Devil created Multi-Continent levels of gravity fluctuations on Earth, why wouldn't this scale to Makima or Pochita? Pochita is implied to be a devil that's feared more than her, or at least on the same level, and so, shouldn't he have more power than her and thus have Multi-Continent levels of output? Same for Typhoon Devil creating Small City+ storms.
Because it's environmental destruction that doesn't even scale to herself.
I brought this up before but dropped it because I’ve never seen this get accepted on the wiki. Plus, it creates a huge outlier, as a weakened Chainsaw Man would be clocking MFTL calcs from being able to statue the Justice Devil while low on blood, which is just inconsistent with the Hypersonic+ to Sub-Relativistic showings in the series, especially for a mid-tier character, it would be a different story of Pochita did it, since we have reasoning behind him being that fast, but a weakened Chainsaw Man? nah.
