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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
- Thread starter Rez
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It's more as if the devils' powers were something abstract and metaphorical rather than a literal visualization of what they do.
When you fall, what makes you fall is gravity, so Falling manipulates gravity, in the dark, strange things can happen, not only living beings age, everything will become once young, in the future it will be old and It will die
When you fall, what makes you fall is gravity, so Falling manipulates gravity, in the dark, strange things can happen, not only living beings age, everything will become once young, in the future it will be old and It will die
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Don't got school to make the time go by faster... this is gonna be a long two weeks.
7. Arnolone Syndrome
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7. Arnolone Syndrome
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the puppets were humans
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I think it'll be the Nuke Devil.
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It's inconsistent. The dolls were shown to be inorganic, as is Darkness Santa, but Old Man Perfect Doll had a heart and blood, and Tolka bled in hell too.
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Denji drinks several dolls' blood to heal in his fight against Santa.
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Guys, remember, it's Denji barfing up, so stuff like Nuke devil won't realistically help Pochita at all nor would Pochita want to nuke Tokyo up either. So my guess is that he'll bring back one of his chainsaw-related hax he used to have but ate them all.
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I just found this thing from 8 months ago, is this dude cooking?
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Nice find Columbus, I literally just linked that post earlier.
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Also, about thermobaric bomb, someone said that it would also vaporize a primal fear right? I found out that it wouldn't, at least not guarantee.
A Nuke would be able to completely cell wipes on an atomic level, but a thermobaric bomb wouldn't be able to do so 100% (and not like it's a 70% or so, but literally really freaking low), and that's why Primal Fears could regenerate from a thermobaric bomb but likely not a nuke. Anyways, there's still one thing to consider though, that being that Falling was completely confident that nothing humans presently possess could kill it, meaning that even in a scenario that we throwing all bombs we have at it (would at least give a slight chance of completely cell wipes), it wouldn't even matter one bit, that's the attitude I'm getting from it.
So again, I think it's safe to say that even a Nuke wouldn't stand a chance against them for now, via fear scaling and statement.
A Nuke would be able to completely cell wipes on an atomic level, but a thermobaric bomb wouldn't be able to do so 100% (and not like it's a 70% or so, but literally really freaking low), and that's why Primal Fears could regenerate from a thermobaric bomb but likely not a nuke. Anyways, there's still one thing to consider though, that being that Falling was completely confident that nothing humans presently possess could kill it, meaning that even in a scenario that we throwing all bombs we have at it (would at least give a slight chance of completely cell wipes), it wouldn't even matter one bit, that's the attitude I'm getting from it.
So again, I think it's safe to say that even a Nuke wouldn't stand a chance against them for now, via fear scaling and statement.
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but maybe it is a thing in the world of chainsaw man
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Santa couldn't turn fiends and hybrids into dolls, after she gains darkness's powers she can now turn fiends, but hybrids are still seemingky immune. Does Pochita inherit Denji's resistance in his Devil form making Aging transmutation double layered or does that only apply to hybrids specifically?
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What's up with the change in formatting? Like and Reply are transparent and likes are bolded now?
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My guess is that Pochita would turn into a Doll, but if you pull his ripcord he'd turn back into a Devil, but that's just a guess.
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Speaking of Fiends, I don't like that Yoru and Asa's profile lists her as "The War Fiend," when they're really not a fiend.
- Unlike fiends, where the devil's mind gets screwed over with human corpse's memories, Asa's still very much conscious and aware, and she and Yoru are separate thinking beings.
- Asa and Yoru don't seem to be able to heal with blood, otherwise Yoru would've healed the arm Yoshida chopped off. Yoru even noted that it was a pain to deal with during the jailbreak, so it's not like she'd want to keep it like that.
- Unlike fiends, it's (maybe) possible for Yoru to actually leave Asa's body, as Yoru states in Ch. 99- "If we beat Chainsaw Man, I'll return your body." Granted, I say maybe because Yoru could be totally lying here.
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This is due to the devil taking over the brain. When the brain is intact, it has huge influence over the personality and memories of the Fiend as seen with Gallgali. Yoru takes this one step further by leaving half of Asa's brain intact (which she says she could take over any time she pleases). They also are not separate beings: Yoru knows everything Asa thinks as in her own words "[Asa] is me." Asa's emotions also influence Yoru's feelings as seen with her liking Denji, because they share a brain.
No Fiend has ever displayed the ability to regenerate a limb. I'm of the belief that it's a matter of a limit on Fiend regeneration.
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If Makima's contract isn't regeneration and is damage transferal to any attack, could it redirect atomic erasure, soul attacks, and much more because those are still attacks?
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In my opinion, it'd work on the former but not the latter, since souls are not confirmed to exist in Chainsaw Man.
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If
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Wiki policy is to assume the existence of the soul to be true for living beings, unless explicitly confirmed not to have one. Is what it is.
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The first one is likely, but you can't argue that for now because it's NLF. The verse has no feats or statements above mid-high regeneration.
The verse has never shown the ability to interact with souls, so assuming that Contracts can interact with, let alone nullify or transfer soul damage is also NLF.
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It's not an NLF, her contract is law manipulation entirely, the contract will trigger as long as the intent of the opponent is to cause harm, no matter the form of the attack.
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If the fighter has healthy legs, you can argue he can kick.
If the verse has soul manip, you can argue she can transfer.
Just because it's Law Manip and transcends to the verse, does not mean that it can do things beyond what the verse has shown so far.
I believe this is NLF.
Agree To Disagree Ig.
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Why would souls be an exception? Isn't attacking the soul still under the perception of an attack?
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Would you say something like deconstruction/decay would work on her? And what about stuff like existence erasure, concept manipulation, so on.
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Assuming all attacks are with the intent to harm her, decon cannot work and will trigger the contract. However, existence erasure erases the contract and depending on the type concept manip it may or may not work.
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Please consolidate your replies into a single message.
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Question for you specifically. I've seen your thread regarding on how weakened would Pochita to scale to the full AP of the Bat Devil due to the fact that he can defeat all the hybrids, but this seems to entail that the hybrids > the full AP of the Bat Devil. How is this the case? What did they do?
Also, if the Falling Devil created Multi-Continent levels of gravity fluctuations on Earth, why wouldn't this scale to Makima or Pochita? Pochita is implied to be a devil that's feared more than her, or at least on the same level, and so, shouldn't he have more power than her and thus have Multi-Continent levels of output? Same for Typhoon Devil creating Small City+ storms.
And also, Justice Devil reacted to Falling Devil's gravity attacks and gravitational waves are the speed of light. So, would this be relativistic+ something?
Finally, would KE of a speed of an attack be useful for scaling? I've seen a calculation that claims that the KE of the Gun Devil's attack is Large Island level.
Mb, won't do it again.
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