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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
- Thread starter Rez
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I mean we have the soviet union and all that stuff, it would be safe to assume the general geography is the same (or else the bullet calc is done for too). All the stuff Pochiter ate are either some fictional stuff or stuff that does not matter for all we know.
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Put into question for?
DrGreyman
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If we question if landmasses moved (what SlendVeny asked in relation to the google maps calculation above) then that would throw into question
The regular gun goddess calculation that we already did and already is in the crt
the 28% gun devil/tank devil weaponization distance and speed
and the 100% gun devil's rampage around the world
it is just much easier to assume the continents haven't dramatically shifted position because of some really strong devil
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The landmasses are the same
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Sometimes I forgor that csm literally had a panel of outer space alreadyThe landmasses are the same
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and kill humans
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Oh, nah, I was just saying some of the mountains and shit might have hypothetically blown up.
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But we ain't dealing with mountains this time, the bullet literally go through Antarctica (which landmass is like 2000m high from sea level where the bullet pierced through). A mountain or two blowing up ain't changing much stuff tbh. And piercing through Antarctica is guarantee if it's going to hit Tokyo btw, that ain't changing no matter what.
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Oh, shit, it ain't go around? I get you, then, that calculation would make much more sense with that information in mind.
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I am surprised it went straight through Antarctica tbh, didn't expect that to happen, and this is me choosing the less extreme path even, it could've went through even more than it did cause I accidentally chose a slightly remote area that's further way into Korea's side than I'm supposed to. It would be even more extreme if I placed the marker a lil bit closer to the ocean.
The bullet will go straight through Brazil no matter how you try to avoid it meaning a long path through South America, and the elevation there is way higher than the bullet would be flying at (all of them are above 100 meters), Antartica (2000m mountains), Australia (they be glad it's only the tip of it), straight through Indo and them islands surrounding it then straight to Tokyo. Basically no matter how you look at it, a hole (as I assumed for less ridiculous collateral damage) of at least 5000km straight rocks was dug. It ain't a simple feat. If you want the file, I can give it to you, I'm putting that thing on hold in case the hair scaling goes wrong.
And the starting elevation level was from the Liberty island btw.
Even if we're not going the all vaporization route and instead splitting it 50 vapor 30 melt 20 pulverization then it would still be at least 8 Gigatons, which is crazy (still isn't as crazy as whatever number the KE calc of mine got).
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Way too many assumptions to be valid.
Respectfully, that's the dumbest statement I've read this week that wasn't from the news, and it's Saturday afternoon so that statement's contending with six-and-a-half other days' worth of stupid. Saying Chainsaw Man got less feared in the middle of the Chainsaw Man Zombie Apocalypse, compared to when barely any humans knew about him, is inane.
Note that Makima's physically much stronger than Weakened Pochita, as she was only taken apart by his cutting damage, while he was getting holes blunt-forced through him with every hit.
Darkness literally spelled Makima's name in severed arms, and attacked her as soon as she pulled up. It was 100% locked in. Makima managed to get away with everyone because Plot.
Future called Pochita the Devils All Devils Fear despite it being like 10 years since he was in Hell, and that was before the Hell Devil BFR'd him back. Another 6 - 18 months isn't gonna make that much of a difference.
Anywho, finally got around to calcing the bullet dodges- Mach 0.41 / Subsonic Post-Assault Aki and Mach 1.78 / Supersonic Nail Fiend. While the latter already scales above Long meaning nothing changes there, the latter is a nice benchmark for full-on devils to automatically scale above.
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That's not way too many. Let me list out every condition for this to be possible:
1: The bullet was flying at a relatively low height all the way
-Proven easily by the fact that every panel we saw it in, it's staying relatively low compare to the sea level. The shot was straight from near the same height as the statue meaning 80m or so. I'd argue that saying the bullet just zigzagging around is more of a headcanon than this. And want it or not, Antarctica elevation profile is still 2000m counting from the island of Liberty, that bullet ain't going nowhere but through all that stuff.
2: The General geography is the same
-This one is easy, we already got an image of Japan in outerspace, with Korea barely visible. I think it's just fair to say that everything is the same to our world, there are 0 reason why it shouldn't, everything in the series, even the twin towers is canon event, a massive change in geography means a massive change in history.
3: The Gun Goddess really shot the bullet that way
-Already proven
Unless this much is still "too many assumptions" of course. Or do you mean the vaporization thing? Well obviously it would only make sense for a 19 Gigatons something projectile to be able to vaporize rocks, once it reaches the stage of only pulverization means it's dying already. Remember, I'm limiting the damage to only a small hole.
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Still too many.
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Eh, then it's whatever I guess. Hair calc is still there after all
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If you reduce it to only the best assumption, the higher the chance a CGM will want to take the look at it.
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The best? Such as? Eh, I think my assumptions are the best there is already tbh, I don't think there is anything that needs changing beside the vaporization thing, which I could use some more scientifically accepted ones (if there even is one). But again, this stuff ain't anything simple, so unless the hair calc is done for, I ain't gonna go through the hassle.
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Love the result for the nail fiend calc.
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Hear me out but it does make sense that it was holding back. Darkness devil was under contract with Santa to give it enough power to beat up makima. The power that Darkness devil gave her was nowhere Makima's true strength, which means Darkness thought Makima was way weaker than she actually was. So when he use the strength he thought was enough to beat Makima, he was caught off guard. It wouldn't make much sense for the Darkness devil to have knowledge on Makima's true strength considering they reside in two different realms and Makima didn't let anyone know her true powers(except for a few later on).
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Cooking. And the 2nd time it just negs Makima, that kinda proves it. And tbh we knows that even if a primal fear is serious about something, they would still be messing around all the time. Look at Falling messing around too much with Denji and Asa and ended up ruining everything, or Aging which is literally the same case, bro could've done literally anything but decides to lazing around instead, with the kind of power it have, it could literally forcefeed itself to Pochita yet it just didn't do so because there is no need to actually lock in that much.
I think Darkness might just be the arrogant type of character, I mean it literally flexed everyone with the entrance and all, I'm sure it won't go all out on something.
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Either it wasn't locked in from the start or it locked in after; both ways Makima should not have been able to get away in time. Again, Plot Armor.
You can acknowledge something about a story doesn't make sense and still like it.
Look up "Contradiction" on DuckDuckGo or Ecosia.
Aging didn't forcefeed itself to Pochita because MREE guy beat it to the punch. Not that it would've worked anyway considering how it would've ended up in its own world thanks to Denji being the Throat GOAT.
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Valid point
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Actually wait, I think I can figure a way to scale the Millenium Spear that is more solid- the fact that Makima made a sword implied she was about to melee Power for some reason rather than use range. So the fact that she bothered to make a sword at all means the Century Sword should be at least compable to her punching power, otherwise why even make the weapon? (Ignoring the benefit of more range given how tall Blood Devil Power is)
With Century Sword >= Makima's physicals in mind, the Millenium Spear clocks in at 5.5 Kilotons, or Small Town level+. Conveniently, this also means the Verse hits every tier from 9-A to 7-A.
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Yeah this is satisfying.
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Now the challenge is trying to get it evaluated before next year.
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Random Question- does this calc even scale to anyone in JJK? Because it's annoying me more the more I think about, but I'm not gonna raise an issue if nobody even scales to it.
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Practically every single mid teir in the verse.
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...Almost every single mid-tier scales to a calc that assumes 4.3 meters per floor, but has a hole only 11 floors tall be 111 meters across.
Okay, time to raise a stink.
EDIT: Stink Raised; upon closer inspection the measurements are not quite as bad as I thought, but it's still pretty bad.
JJK: Bad Pixel Measuring
TIL a good chunk of Mid-Tiers scale to this calc, and now I'm really annoyed. To anyone who saw this calc and didn't think anything was wrong, I have a question for you: If one floor is 4.3 meters tall, why is a 14-floor tall hole (60.2 meters) 96.16 meters across? I'll tell you why, because...
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I looked at the pixel scaling... The reason why the calc looks like that is because it's in a perspective, and they messed up real time with that. First they didn't trace the diagonal lines of which is in the same angle as the building (which is understandable, the image quality is blinding), but because it's a bottom-up perspective the measurement is gonna be stupid for this one. They should've manually measured each floor of the building (as we already know it's 4.3 meters), but they just kinda forgor about it seconds later...
In short, that calc is DONE FOR.
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Oh yeah, they didn't measure on the diagonals either, which was odd. Should be fixed with this calc.
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I can't believe there is an important calc that got messed up big time like this... It's over from the pixel measurement stage and somehow got accepted...
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Oh that's nothing. The accepted King Kong Gun Calc from a couple years ago squared the wrong value, getting results several dozens of millions times higher than they should've been, and nobody noticed until I pointed it out.
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It's one piece bro, common stuff (I mean Luffy did smashed an island there, some people might just took it instantly without thinking). I'm more surprised about how blowing a 11 floor hole through a building is City Block Level+ to freaking multi city block level or something and got accepted, which is just weird for me.
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Did we just have an overnight five month timeskip???
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"Pochita, what did I say"
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YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH MORE OF KIGA'S PERSONALITY DROPPED WOOOHOOOOOOO
Even after losing everything he's still a better gentleman than Shinji lol
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Five months is what it takes for Asa to make a comeback
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