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The Door from hell to earth is still there, Pochita could just cut that door to go to earth again.
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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
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The way I see it, while Fear Scaling boosts everything, if you inherently have a different stat-spread then that stays even after you're boosted. So like, [STR: 1 SPD: 10] after a 5x boost would be [STR: 5 SPD: 50]. You're 5x stronger than before, but it's still not great.This creates another problem because the more your feared the more powerful you should be, that including physical power. If Aging—a Primal Devil, has a frail body, then the verse scaling kinda just throws it self over as it won't make any sense.
In other words, let's wait out the 10 - 13 chapters left
As the Devil of Aging, its body will always be frail relative to its strength, regardless of how feared it is. Of course this is speculation, but it's what I'd push for if/when Fujimoto doesn't give any explanations for how the Aging - Pochita - Yoru triangle works.
In other news, the Mega CRT is just going to be about AP right?
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I knew Fujimoto was unreliable when he drew Denji getting punched through a skyscraper (8-C) and walking away with an "Owie", and then being stabbed by multiple Nobodies during the Chainsaw Man War.
Still, the scene with Asa getting her arm cut off and then only getting cut skin-deep is so insanely explicit. To a ridiculous degree.
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Considering Spear Man's spears can stab through Pochita and Makima can be killed with bullets, piercing damage is just insanely effective Chainsaw Man. F in chat for those who use cutting damage (swords, chainsaws).
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We will be ignoring that 1.2 tons of TNT over the area of a fist > 500-odd joules over the area of a spear tip.
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Gee, it's almost like "insanely" means defying common sense or logic.
Every time a CSM Powerscaler weeps, Fujimoto buys himself another parfait.
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I like the idea, but if we go by that agenda Aging ends up having a frailer body than Quanxi who is just a human and doesn't have empowerment when not transformed. The idea that Primal Devil's even have frail bodies to begin with is a mere theory since we've yet to see any durability feats. All we know is that they're just far tougher than everyone else.
I mean, when I think of fear scaling, I think of War vs Octopus. Nearly everything improves by a wide margin, strength, speed and ability. We have to remember that these devils are concepts, so if we do end up using your agenda, we are going to have to put on our thinking caps cause we would be in for a real headache.
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Aging? As I remember, Aging was never hurt by Pochita's sheer physical power, but more like from his chainsaws, right? And not that we've seen Aging get hurt from any other attacks either. For Falling, it's clear that she would get hurt from even a knife because that's just a body made out of normal human bodies. Darkness also did not get hurt by anything other than Makima attacking it directly with some contract of her.
Basically, I haven't seen any bad durability scenario of the primal fears. Also they can just heal, so durability isn't needed for them to be op as heck, maybe that's also why?
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Pochita's chainsaws are his raw physical power, other than that yeah
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Aging got diced by Pochita's chainsaws, which- while tough enough to deflect shots by the Gun Gauntlet- were destroyed by the Gun Goddess.
Also Pochita pulled Aging apart with just his hands too, no saws required.
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Has anyone ever severely harmed / killed by a kick (legsaws doesn't count) in CSM? Fami survived a kick from Yoru, Miri survived a kick from Black Chainsaw man, Makima's only good dura feat comes from tanking a kick.
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Kick back
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Technically he didn't survive getting his head getting chopped off after and legsaws were involved there too-
Falling killed Denji with a kick,
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Only blunt force kick with a kill in CSM and they say she has fodder physicals smh
No damage from getting kicked through skyscrapers tho!
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Never got a verification for this-
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Yeah it will mainly be only about AP, I'll try to revamp speed scaling in a different crt.
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Yay! Another trifecta of Pochita blitzes Old Age/Old Age fodderizes Gun Goddess Bullet/Gun Goddess Bullet slams Pochita!!
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How come Aging got blitzed? They're much faster and can freeze their opponents.
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Also, on a new note, I might do the speed CRT first since most of the new calcs are not accepted, meaning there's a chance we're gonna get Low 7-C mid teirs (momentarily, hopefully someone will have the courage to graze the re-calcs)
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There's a Low 7-C calc?
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Yea, the original Chainsaw Kick calc. No CGM's have seemed to want to take a look at the re-calcs, so we're gonna have to play the waiting game or work with what we're already using.
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You can make a CRT with calcs that haven't been evaluated and then use it to force Calc Group Members' attention- trust me I literally made an entire Verse with over a dozen profiles and several dozen calculations on my own.
Also while Dean accepted the V. Frag end, it's contested by DMUA, plus only the Frag end is listed on the Verse page because Small Town level for putting holes in five buildings is stupid.
Also also, you'd need to make a CRT to do the rescaling with the Dropkick Feat anyway, so might as well kill two Bucky's with one Asa.
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Our evil scheme's are in progress
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I mean math is math tho. JJK verse has Sukuna punching Yuji through one (1) building as Multi-City Block lvl
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Yeah, if this can be accepted, I don't see why performing the same feat but several times better, while also causing collateral damage through multiple buildings with an equal amount of destruction, being Low 7-C is crazy either.
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As someone who's made over a hundred calcs, I can confidently tell you that the calcs are the most bullshit part of any Verse's scaling.
Look at how the green only measures the white part and doesn’t measure the dark part of each story.
That feat is literally eight times higher than it should be because it measures half a floor as a full floor, creating a 100m diameter hole on a mid-rise building. (You can also just count- they use 4.3 meters per floor, yet somehow ~13 floors is 100 meters tall.) Doubling the length that it should be means eight times the volume, 88-110 tons should be 11-14 tons.
Moral of the story: holes in buildings still shouldn't be Low 7-C. The only reason the Dropkick Calc has that as a high end is because violent-fragging steel takes an absolute ton of energy.
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Me when a character who can't even destroy a city block in 1 strike is considered large town level:
Anyways, maybe it's the problem with the bar set for different tiers being lower than it should? Eh, this is one of the thing I hate about vsbattle, it's so confusing tbh.
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This sounds absurd, but can Yoru bypass Infinity? Like, she can transmutate weapons without touching them, right?
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Only if she somehow managed to percieve Gojo's shirt as her own or something, but yeah.
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Watch as it turns out Fami's original plan for defeating the Death Devil was actually to just use Nayuta to brainwash Yoru into thinking that Death belonged to her so she'd turn her into a grenade.
Nayuta saying "No thanks" forced Fami to break out Plan B: Ruin Everything.
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Can she perceive human beings as their own and boom them?
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Not unless said human beings are also infatuated with her/Asa.
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I'm confused, wdym?
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Also, I'm still confused on this
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For short, attacking the soul is not an exception except if the person who can attack the soul in question, has layered resistance against law manip when utilizing their ability.
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Alright. Another question, can (or does) Makima literally tear off internal organs such as the heart through biological manipulation, or does she just cause hemorrhaging?
