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The Tsukuyomi feat I saw the moonlight blitzed the other unit. Any scans of someone blocking the moonlight?
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Cardfight speed downgrade
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I disagree since there's nothing controversial about it at all. It's just based off the OP's personal takeaway on it not counting when it's not a legitimate takeaway.
Even amongst the early points of the series, this is a rating for Units who explicitly have casual speed feats and have a consistently verbatim standard of being far superior in stats to that of a Cardfighter's soul. If there's no actual anti feat for them given, and they have a consistent standard for scaling, then that is enough for the rating.
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Yeah it fits the context of the verse better as well.
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Asaka's Units outright block Tsukuyomi's attacks in her first battle with Misaki. So, no.
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You can't be mftl and consistently have mhs anti feats as well.
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I recall the moonlight not being blocked, can you provide a scan?
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You very much can. Otherwise, every character on this site is getting downgraded.
A casual feat doesnt invalidate higher scaling.
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Are you familiar with how outliers work? Soul transfer feats don't scale to unit combat speeds and its consistent throughout the whole series.
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If a feat is casual it can't be used as an outlier argument.
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Yes, and it does not apply at all here. An outlier requires actual anti feats that are indicative of the characters stats. Like if a supposed FTL character struggles with moving at speeds lower than that.
This case is not such a case. The speeds lower than what Takuto's soul did are, again, casual speed feats for the Units who have shown no notable exertion with performing them. You can't apply an outlier to that.
They do, because Units are completely > Souls. That includes the souls speed.
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There's no implication that any of those feats are casual. That's just his headcanon.
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What's the proof of them not being casual other then "Well I remember".
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Nothing. Funny how he claims they aren't casual, but provides no proof to substantiate that burden of proof.
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Funny how you ask me when he made the initial claim. But we all know the battles are actually happening in real time.
1:48 we can see that they're very serious.
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Oh yeah, something else I remembered. In the S2 finale when Aichi has a cardfight in a reality between Cray and Earth's universes, Blond Ezel flat out travels to the dimension from Cray in physical movement.
So that there is a blatant universe crossing feat for a Unit.
So that there is a blatant universe crossing feat for a Unit.
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You mean a battle thats literally never shown on screen? Great evidence.
The Royal and Shadow Paladin clan war is absolutely never shown to us outside of small snipets, this is terrible evidence to use for your side.
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Yeah I was about to say...
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We can see how casual blaster dark is in that instance, and a casual war? Lol
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All right, what's better evidence to your claims?
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What instance....?
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Oh I used the wrong timestamp I mean 0:48
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You mean Blaster Blade pinning Blaster Dark down....?
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So your "bombshell" evidence here is a quick 2 second snipet of Blaster Blade forcing Blaster Dark to submit with his sword...?
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audible gasp
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not a thing on the wiki unless the speed is actually contradicted iirc
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The battle Is shown to be serious, there isn't any evidence of all of the battles being casual.
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Okay what does that have to do with speed again?
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Okay? And this literally matters here at all how? No seriously, how?
My points was that the battles where Units display lightning moving or quick speedy movements are done very casually.
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Casual or not it's the only consistent battle feats they have. They also get hit by lightning and light based attacks.
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Casual feats into non-casual MFTL+.
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It isn't, and that terrible display of evidence from the clip doesn't suffice on proving that.
Also not evidence, as it just means the attacks are ridiculously fast. Just as we do this with literally every other character on the site.
Just because a FTL character is tagged with a fire attack doesnt mean they're below FTL. It just means the fire attack is FTL.
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There's no evidence of them being ftl, now you're just reaching.
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It's very clear that when souls are transported it doesn't scale to combat speed. There isn't a single example of mftl movement from a unit.
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Besides them upscaling from Takuto's soul, who physically crosses universes with movement that reaches MFTL+, and said scaling is supported by the context of the series putting Units in a completely whole different class than Cardfighter's souls in stats.
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You quoted this but he lied. That isn't what happened there. A portal opened up connecting the dimension to cray and he traveled through it. This is why more people need to review wiki's like this where the pages are highballed.
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Prove he did.
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Also I'm seriously tired of no scans being provided with the claims at hand. As a third party it makes it really hard to evaluate properly when I'm just expected to know the damn series.
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I know exactly what your talking about here, and this isn't what im referring to. This is:
34:46 incase a timeframe is needed to specify exactly what I mean.
