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Captain Ginyu enters the Cell Games! (Execpt he's Fighting Buu)

LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
It's not really a stomp.
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It really is. Buu has Regenerationn, Absorption, far more expierience, transmutation, absorption, and has the massive AP advantage as well. Even if you were to completely disregard the fact that Tagoma got essentially one-shot by Gotenks and take the "Tagoma = Buu Saga Ultimate Gohan" feat seriously, he would still be vastly inferior to Buuhan. Why? BECAUSE HE HAS GOHAN ABSORBED IN HIM. Buuhan has the combined powers of himself, Piccolo, SSJ3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan combined. I can't see Tagoma, who only rivals Ultimate Gohan, fighting Buuhan without getting 1 shot.
 
The 2nd Existential Seed said:
Gohan stated he rivaled his peak during his initial confrontation with Tagoma, then according to his profile " Tagoma's body powered up after Ginyu took control of it" . Meaning the statement applied to Pre-Ginyu Tagoma, not Post-Ginyu Tagoma.
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Massive AP advantage Mickey? It is nowhere near massive, I would say that even X2 is pushing it.

Piccolo is a non-factor and gotenks defused by the time gohan was absorbed.


And he would bodyswap most likely, which Buu has no knowledge on.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
The 2nd Existential Seed said:
Gohan stated he rivaled his peak during his initial confrontation with Tagoma, then according to his profile " Tagoma's body powered up after Ginyu took control of it" . Meaning the statement applied to Pre-Ginyu Tagoma, not Post-Ginyu Tagoma.
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Massive AP advantage Mickey? It is nowhere near massive, I would say that even X2 is pushing it.
Piccolo is a non-factor and gotenks defused by the time gohan was absorbed. And he would bodyswap most likely, which Buu has no knowledge on.
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Uh, yes, he has the massive AP advantage. It's pretty reasonable to say that Gohan's "Tagoma = Ultimate Gohan" statement is not valid, since SSJ Gotenks one-shot Tagoma, and SSJ Gohan bodied Ginyu-Tagoma.

Plus, there's no stopping Buu from using his hax advantage to cancel out Ginyu's body swap technique.
 
Super gave everyone asspulls. You go make a crt about it being not legit, not argue it in a thread.

Cancel it out? How exactly would he cancel it? And how much of that is in character?
 
Yeah...

Bith absorption and transmutation are easy to dodge tough. Body swap actually paralyzes the enemy while used.

And buu will not try to absorb right away.

Nor to transmutate.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Yeah...
Bith absorption and transmutation are easy to dodge tough. Body swap actually paralyzes the enemy while used.

And buu will not try to absorb right away.

Nor to transmutate.
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Body Swap doesn't paralyze people
 
Also, for the people who think that Ginyu will body swap right off the bat, this isn't true. Name 1 Ginyu fight where he body swaps before engaging them in battle first.
 
Yeah, it does. Why do you think people can't dodge it while it's being casted?

When he fights someone who is stronger then himself. Especially since he knows that majin buu is a powerfull being.
 
Ginyu has used Body Change a total of 3 times:

1. When he used it against Goku, who was caught off guard and had no idea what tf Ginyu was doing

2. When he tried to use it against Vegeta, who was caught off guard and was speeding towards Ginyu

3. When he used it against Tagoma, who WAS HIT IN THE BALLS

Every time Ginyu used the technique, the victim was either off-guard or already immobilized by something unrelated to the Body Change Technique (Tagoma)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFbVEmwU3E

This doesn't look like Paralyzation, as Vegeta was not immobilized, and he was still flying towards Ginyu, and e was still able to recoil in panic

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_Ginyu

Paralyzation isn't even on his page

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Change

No paralyzation
 
Even if Ginyu made Tagoma's body stronger, it wasn't as much of a boost in comparison to Buutenks absorbing Ultimate Gohan, as SSJ Gohan was still able to 2 shot Ginyu. If we assume that Super Buu = Ultimate Gohan = normal Tagoma (since all of these characters in series are comparable), then the boosts that Buu and Tagoma got were this:

Ginyu got an unquantifiable amount stronger, probably not much stronger (boost vastly weaker than SSJ)

Super Buu absorbed 1 4B being and 3 High 4C beings

Seems to me that Super Buu still has the AP advantage
 
And again Mickey, unless you wanna make an CRT about it and get some stuff changed, the AP advantage is not even massive.
 
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