Captain America(MCU) Vs Master Chief.

[VersusJunkie54]

Since this is fair thanks to upgrades, I thought I'd give it a shot.

Master Chief gets all of his 9-A weapons. EXCEPT for the Halo 5 REQ variants.

Cap does not have his shield.(8-A makes it a stomp)

Both in character.

Victory by death.

Who wins and why?

MC:2 DarkDragonMedeus Ricsi-viragosi

Cap:0

Inconclusive:0

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Inconclusive for now. Master Chief's weapons do not seem to be capable of harming 9-A Captain America, yet Captain America usually relies on his shield.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Inconclusive for now. Master Chief's weapons do not seem to be capable of harming 9-A Captain America, yet Captain America usually relies on his shield.

Wat? How far into 9-A is he? Because I know for sure that the Needler and Railgun will do nasty things to cap.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't see any 9-A calcs on any of the linked pages of Captain America or those he scales to; the best I see are some Wall level calcs. But I think it was a held back Giant-Man punching Spider-Man is the main thing that got them 9-A.

Anyway, John's needlers are going to be Hell for Cap; they generally cause decapitation on Spartans and Elites. Although is speed not equalized, and since the muzzle velocity of a needler is only a meesely 54 m/s, Cap could dodge it fairly easily. However, Sniper Rifles should still injure Cap via penetration and same with Assault Rifle. I'm leaning towards John for the time being.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

There are no calcs, he scales to Spidey supporting a collapsing building

 

[KarmodF]

You know one of Chief's 9-A weapons creates a tiny Black Hole?, Better restrict It.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

You know one of Chief's 9-A weapons creates a tiny Black Hole?, Better restrict It.

I'll just single out the REQ variants to make it fair.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Okay, no weapon in MC's arsenal is even close to a black hole; Slipspace portal perhaps, but black hole is a very infamous thing to compare a lot of things to here.

Anyway, if what Spinosaurus said is true about Cap being baseline 9-A Then John stomps this hard for being 8 to 15 times stronger.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Wait how come a black hole is 9-A? Don't think it's a black hole.

I never said Cap was baseline 9-A. I only said he scales to Spidey supporting a collapsing building and holding a ferry together.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Btw Cap should be able to dodge rifles, he has Supersonic reactions.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, but if there's no calc to prove how far up they are in the 9-A department or any statement about specific joules of energy, it's a general default that we assume baseline for their tiers.

And yeah, it's not a black hole, it's just a portal; there's a big difference.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Ah ok.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Should I close this? Because if Cap is baseline than MC stomps.

Of and congrats on becoming a calc group member Spino.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, since this is a stomp, it's probably best to close this.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Yo, not an AP stomp anymore. A calc just gave Cap a value above baseline. That is comparable to the low end of MC's AP.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

The calc was adjusted. Cap is around 0.2 gigajoules now. Can anyone show me Master Chief's AP calc?

 

[VersusJunkie54]

The calc was adjusted. Cap is around 0.2 gigajoules now. Can anyone show me Master Chief's AP calc?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FanofRPGs/Spartan_Ramming_Strength

167 to 312 megajoules. So they're roughly even.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Yeah.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, this is a lot more even now; on one hand, Cap is 1.6 times stronger, or John is about 1.2 times stronger. Although, John still has the weapons to give him a slight edge either way. While it is true that Cap is fast enough to dodge bullets, it is still a little difficult to dodge bullets and punch at the same time. Plus John is relatively flexible as switching from melee to rapid fire, so that's another slight advantage.

They're pretty even hand to hand, but I do think Cap is a better martial artist overall. This version of Captain America also has Class 50 lifting strength; so assuming there are large objects around, he could potentially use those to his advantage. However, I also noticed the Type-50 Covenant Sniper Rifle is Hypersonic+ attack speed; 3657 m/s, which would be the fastest weapon in his arsenal. Cap ain't dodging that unless Cap is very far away. I'd still say John wins by a hair for those reasons.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Vote counted. But don't count MC's far superior combat experience out of this just yet. I'd put Cap on par with a typical Elite Zealot. Enemies the Chief has dealt with handily time and time again. And superior CQC? I wouldn't be so sure about that either. Considering Cap was frozen for most of his life, whereas MC has more than a decade of training and a couple decades more of combat experience.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I wasn't counting it out, also time spend training is irrelevant compared to what has been learned. For example, Captain America was adeptly trained in 127 forms of martial arts; it's unknown how many forms of martial arts John trained. And for all we know, he mostly just learned a few military forms of martial arts.

Don't worry, not suggesting John's a brawler like he's typically seen in most games, but still. Cap has in canon studied more forms of martial arts than John has. However, I did mention that John's arsenal is what gives him the edge and I still voted for him.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

mc fra

 

[KarmodF]

But don't count MC's far superior combat experience out of this just yet.

Compare Cap to a Promethean Knight, take into acount that not even a full team made of Heavy armored gunners were able to take down Chief, with improvised weapons in Halo 4 before he even fought the Warden.