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You too chill out.
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Can this qualify for transduality type 3?
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there's only this on the wiki now, there are reviews about transduality, I'll probably have to review several things when it's updated, but anyway, I only clarified a few things, and it will still take a long time for Shinza to return to the Wiki, but at least everyone readers agree it's the strongest anime verse so i'm satisfied with that, i'll stop because i think i'm already being toxic, if anyone has things to clarify feel free i'm a fan but i'm not blind to criticism
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Shinza just didn't have tier 0 and still doesn't have it, but it doesn't have to be tier 0 to beat others, and if you don't remember shinza had most of the stomps of battles and was already the strongest for a while, but the back was being unmarked, other verses were being updated and in the end the veros was deleted, and calm down, you're getting irritated, you're even denying that I'm a fan and that I read it, calm down I'm also a fan just like you, we don't need to be toxic, sorry if I offended you
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and about what I said, I talked about the takyoku principle of being primordial to everything and how it is what creates everything, logically it is omniscient, but I didn't talk about takyoku users, because takyoku levels work in a different way, you confused my explanations
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Very sad HAHAHA
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sad
PrinceofPein
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Nah you are not a fan or rather you enjoy the series cause they are strong like you said earlier
and the fact that shinza does not need a tier 0 to beat a tier 0 shows you dont know much about battle boarding of vs wiki in general
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then you were very wrong, a tier 0 character is someone who is beyond a High1A structure and has no limits within its own back, if you are several realms still above a High1A realm, but you still have limitations within your own verse you wouldn't be tier 0, but you would still be stronger than a tier 0 of a verse with a lower Cosmology, and about being a fan or not, I don't think you have the right to decide if I'm a fan or not, kind of doubtful whose being toxic now isn't it?
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Tier 0 requirements don't change verse to verse. You are either Tier 0 or you aren't there is no middle ground. You can be Tier 0 in a verse that cosmology caps at Tier 2 and be equal to a Tier 0 whose cosmology caps at High 1-A.
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Wrong, at least not how we treat tier 0 here. Being beyond the high 1-A structure is not enough.
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and what did i say? even if you are above a High1A, if you have too many contradictions or limits within your back you wouldn't scale to tier 0, so many characters stay like High1A, but that doesn't stop them from being stronger than some tier 0
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I didn't say they change
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readjusting, it has no limits within its cosmology and no contradictions and has adequate descriptions, and logically is also beyond a High1A structure
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i'm still not very fluent in english so i can use wrong words and i don't trust the translator much so sorry for the mistakes
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You can be Tier 0 and still have limitations, Tier 0 is not "Boundless", it does not mean you are not bound by anything. It's just a name for a Tier that has no end. You can be infinitely beyond Tier 0, Immeasurably beyond Tier 0, Inaccessibly beyond Tier 0 even. Hell, half of the Tier 0's on the site are still weaker and under the influence of even higher structures and Tier 0 beings.
And no a High 1 -A being, can never be stronger than a Tier 0 being, maybe if they have Smurf abilities or NEP but other than that, just no. If a High 1-A being is stronger than a Tier 0 being, that means that a High 1-A being is Tier 0, like I said the strength of Tier 0's baseline does not change depending on Cosmology or verse.
And no a High 1 -A being, can never be stronger than a Tier 0 being, maybe if they have Smurf abilities or NEP but other than that, just no. If a High 1-A being is stronger than a Tier 0 being, that means that a High 1-A being is Tier 0, like I said the strength of Tier 0's baseline does not change depending on Cosmology or verse.
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but for that you need to have adequate description, and if both are tiers 0 in 2A verses as you said, whoever has the best descriptions wins
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Tier 0 (Boundless):
Characters who can affect objects which completely exceed the logical foundations of High 1-A, much like it exceeds the ones defining 1-A and below, meaning that all possible levels of High 1-A are exceeded, even an infinite or uncountably amount of such levels. This tier has no endpoint, and can be extended to any higher level just like the ones above.
Being "omnipotent" or any similar reasoning is not nearly enough to reach this tier on its own; however, such statements can be used as supporting evidence in conjunction with more substantial information.
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I copied it from the Wiki, I'm basing it on that
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Agreed, no doubts on that. Well said mate!
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What the hell is going on here
Where did infinite truth states come from
Where did infinite truth states come from
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Idk, it was an example since he says beyond beyond transduality type 3 and beyond and not bound bla bla, so I told him if it is infinite, it will stay type 3
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Now that I've seen that it totally strayed from the proposed subject, does everyone agree that Shinza has at least type 3 transduality?
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it doesn't even make sense to try to climb shinza no vs battle since most of the stories don't have official translations so it's very doubtful, and probably won't go back to vs battle anytime soon, but I don't doubt if you do even with just a part of Cosmology it would still be very strong with the amount of verses being unmarked, well but then I don't care, if anyone wants the new web link just say that I have the link in case there is someone who doesn't know yet
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I think everyone agreed it had Type 3 already.
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Ya and honestly strong one if what he said is true lol
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just search Mitra's descriptions, and confirm Mercurius's, I think the topic is over then
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Like I said, you have absolutely no idea how vs wiki here works.
Also a fan is an enthusiasts and since I have to deal with people that loves to wank masada works everytime, in my eyes someone like you who said "I am interested in the verse because of how strong they are" Is not a fan.
It means if they were wall level you will not be interested, meaning you are actually not a fan.
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I don't really care about this series but considering people outside of this wiki, there are a lot of which Shinza's cosmologi claims are unclear, that's why I'd like to hear from the people who have the wiki version here, what tier cosmology shinza
considering there is a rumor yuri just debunked this verse to L1C therefore I would like to hear from this wiki's opinion on the cosmology of this verse
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a being can be High1A and have access to level 0 powers depending on the verse, and when I started seeing Masadase I didn't even understand dimensionality properly I started seeing it because of the visuals which are amazing, I liked the story and kept playing, i was learning about dimensionality and i started to discover how powerful they were, you are just being toxic, i can also say that you are not a fan since you don't even care to defend the verse you like, but anyway i won't argue anymore with you, the topic is over
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for me 1A probably High1A for the top tiers, in my view if a character has limits within its Cosmology it is not suitable to be tier 0, but according to the Thread's explanations about tier 0 Naraka and Varuna seem to fit this question, and about Shinza 1C, in Kamui kagura itself, Madara moved 24 dimensions which would already be 1B and in Mibu's fight it was said that no matter how strong an attack from a lower dimension is, it cannot interfere with one from a higher dimension , and Mercurius' throne itself is described as hyper dimensional meaning beyond dimensions, and takyoku is the source of all things in creation including the Ying Yang and the dimensions themselves, and a single taikyoku user could already cut the throne This statement doesn't even make sense.
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You can have limits and still be Tier 0. You are having a severe lack of misunderstanding of the tiering system. Tier 0 is a tier like any other, just a buffed up High 1-A.
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if so, depending on the translations, a single takyoku would already be tier 0, but then I don't care anymore
PrinceofPein
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And on what scale did taikyoku become tier 0 exactly?
This is just speaking from not knowing things and not willing to ask and learn
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takyoku is the color that paints everything, everything is described with a law and takyoku is what makes this law, when you have a takyoku you become your own universe and set the laws that the universe will follow and all laws do not pass of physical manifestations, in the same way that a lower dimension cannot interact with a higher one, this is just the law of a universe and other universes are not obligated to follow it as long as their law is higher, the Throne of Mercurius itself was described as hyper dimensional and is beyond all dimensions and all takyoku users are also beyond this physical law which gives them 1A, below that is a white slate which is made up of colorless takyoku, described as the realm devoid of colors or the void, when the throne user and the invader duel make a tear in reality creating a new reality that overlaps the previous reality as it has a higher law than the previous one, all adjacent creations are within the singularity and the itself is beyond all no matter how many transcendences it has and one of these transcendences is a 1A universe, making the singularity High1A because it encompasses several realities of different levels and encompasses all of them with the exception of the original reality created solely by the hadou god himself , i.e. the singularity is high 1A, it is ruled by the throne which is manipulated by takyoku users as they are their own universe which is not part of the adjacent universes/multiverses within the original universe ruled by the throne, tier 0
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Yuri debunked it to 1-B based on mistranslations / out of context scans . Low 1-C and shit like that is nonsense so don't give that crap an ear.
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