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Question, if we downgrade Undertale tiers does that mean their speed goes down too? Or just their AP and Durability and such?
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Calc stacking and Undertale downgrade
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Okay then. Well, reading the definition of calc stacking I agree with the OP. Downgrade seems fine to me.
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Yes, this is calc stacking. I support its removal.
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Have to say, I agree with the OP and others here.
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It might not technically be calc stacking, but its the same general idea. I agree with the removal of it.
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I also agree that it's calc stacking, and that it's hypocritical to allow this yet not other similar cases
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I redid the calculation using the actual game mechanics this time. Here.
http://www.t5forums.com/forum/the-v...ly-normal-attack-ke-calc-now-with-a-giant-yea
This is an absolute pain to calc btw. Never doing Undertale calcs again.
So, is there a proper feat that places Undertale characters at least above tier 8, if there are any at all?
http://www.t5forums.com/forum/the-v...ly-normal-attack-ke-calc-now-with-a-giant-yea
This is an absolute pain to calc btw. Never doing Undertale calcs again.
So, is there a proper feat that places Undertale characters at least above tier 8, if there are any at all?
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If that goes through, it would be the downgrade to end all downgrades
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You could pull of City Block with Tsunderplane.
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No one can calc them, that's the thing.
Thus we have to rely on accurate assumptions.
Thus we have to rely on accurate assumptions.
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KE? That wouldn't even get building level, most likely.
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Likely
But that would only be the weight of it.
Bombs explode. And we don't catch the explosion do we
But that would only be the weight of it.
Bombs explode. And we don't catch the explosion do we
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Then find various bombs the US military uses and go on that. Possibly an average or a low-end of the energy of those bombs.
If we go under the assumption that Frisk's soul = Frisk's height we could find what would be needed to generate a fireball the size of the battle-board and use that as an absolute high-end.
If we go under the assumption that Frisk's soul = Frisk's height we could find what would be needed to generate a fireball the size of the battle-board and use that as an absolute high-end.
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This is a quick calc for Vulkin's lightning as suggested by Imago
Frisk's Height - 1.22 m
Frisk's Weight - 41.5037 kg. (assuming Frisk is female) 39.9161 kg. (assuming Frisk is male)
http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/height-weight-teens.shtml (source for that)
http://www.cato.eu/body-surface-area-children-1.html
Low End Surface Area - 1.1643 m^2
High End Surface Area - 1.1787 m^2
Temperature of Lightning - 29999 Kelvin (according to Google)
http://www.endmemo.com/physics/radenergy.php
Using emissivity of 0.9 (as suggested by Imago)
Low End - 48119109074.098 J/s or 11.05 tons of TNT
High End - 48714243636.21 J/s or 11.6 tons of TNT
Since the attack lasts about 2 seconds that'd be multiplied by 2 presumably, giving 22.1 tons of TNT for the low end and 23.2 tons of TNT for the high-end. Either way it's City-Block level Undertale, the justification just needs to be changed.
Frisk's Height - 1.22 m
Frisk's Weight - 41.5037 kg. (assuming Frisk is female) 39.9161 kg. (assuming Frisk is male)
http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/height-weight-teens.shtml (source for that)
http://www.cato.eu/body-surface-area-children-1.html
Low End Surface Area - 1.1643 m^2
High End Surface Area - 1.1787 m^2
Temperature of Lightning - 29999 Kelvin (according to Google)
http://www.endmemo.com/physics/radenergy.php
Using emissivity of 0.9 (as suggested by Imago)
Low End - 48119109074.098 J/s or 11.05 tons of TNT
High End - 48714243636.21 J/s or 11.6 tons of TNT
Since the attack lasts about 2 seconds that'd be multiplied by 2 presumably, giving 22.1 tons of TNT for the low end and 23.2 tons of TNT for the high-end. Either way it's City-Block level Undertale, the justification just needs to be changed.
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hey i actually found something. cool
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You need an admin and a calc member to weigh in the recent changes.
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Didn't you have a calc using just Napstablook and nothing else, btw?Saikou The Lewd King said:
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Being rarely used does not make something entirely unusable, though. If the result is still significantly greater than other calcs not using it, then I don't see why it should be ignored.LordXcano said:
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Wait a second, I thought using KE for Mass x Velocity was expressedly a fine thing to do in cases of character speed as long as the mass was connected to the attacker in question, and that this has been done numerous times now? In that case, wouldn't we just substitute the bone with one of the monsters or something?
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Not sure how it would be an outlier if none of the other calcs it's being compared to use the same speed for the KE. Not to mention the fact that in this case, the KE isn't from a separate speed feat. As I already said, it's just for Napstablook's movement, in general.
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Just a question, how do we know that Napsta didn't just teleport for the light feat? He teleported to meet up with Frisk to get to the snail farm. If he could run, or float, that fast, why didn't he?
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There was a calc for napstablook's headphones moving at rel speeds iirc, and a calc could likely be made for the KE of Frisk dodging light from knight knight's sun as well. Ah I found the calc: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/250922
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Because Napstablook would still need to actually close the blinds, even if they teleported to reach them. Not to mention they only ever seem to teleport to locations outside their present area, but that's besides the point.The real cal howard said:
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