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Broly vs anime cell
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Broly One-Shots.
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Broly is Multi-Galaxy Level and Cell is Multi-Solar System at best. The Movies don't mix with the anime.
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Broly (Toei) is supposed to be 4-A in here. So the match is legit.
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I really don't agree with that at all but OK. Either way, his multiplier should be way higher than SSJ2, so he One-Shots regardless.
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If you don't agree, you can always make a Content Revision Thread, to change his statistics.
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This is M10 Broly.
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Broly accidentally sneezes a ki blast and vaporizes Cell.
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Broly doesn't one shot. Not even close to that.
Super Perfect Cell is comparable to SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
Meanwhile LSSJ Broly stomped SSJ2 Adult Goha but struggled at moments. Later in the beam struggle 3 SSJs won against him but by a lucky shot.
And no, M10 Gohan ain't stronger than CG Gohan. M10 Gohan has trained since M8. Movie 8 Gohan didn't even probably finish his training in the Rosat as he was weak as hell. M10 Gohan is meant to be Buu Arc Gohan most likely.
Saying M10 Broly is M8 Broly x LSSJ multiplier is totally ridiculous. M8 Broly ain't that impressive and Perfect Cell could easily replicate his feats. Idk where M8 Broly = SPC comes from.
SSJ1 Broly was hella casual when fighting Base Gohan unless we all wanna argue Base Buu Arc Saiyans are above Perfect Cell lmao, which is stupid considering SSJ2 Goku in the Buu Arc barely surpassed Gohan from back then.
I'll say they are comparable but giving this to Cell mainly because of better techniques and intelligence. You can push it and say Broly is around Majin Vegeta or Good Buu but anything more than that is absolute wanking. SSJ3 Goku one shots Broly with his pinky.
Super Perfect Cell is comparable to SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
Meanwhile LSSJ Broly stomped SSJ2 Adult Goha but struggled at moments. Later in the beam struggle 3 SSJs won against him but by a lucky shot.
And no, M10 Gohan ain't stronger than CG Gohan. M10 Gohan has trained since M8. Movie 8 Gohan didn't even probably finish his training in the Rosat as he was weak as hell. M10 Gohan is meant to be Buu Arc Gohan most likely.
Saying M10 Broly is M8 Broly x LSSJ multiplier is totally ridiculous. M8 Broly ain't that impressive and Perfect Cell could easily replicate his feats. Idk where M8 Broly = SPC comes from.
SSJ1 Broly was hella casual when fighting Base Gohan unless we all wanna argue Base Buu Arc Saiyans are above Perfect Cell lmao, which is stupid considering SSJ2 Goku in the Buu Arc barely surpassed Gohan from back then.
I'll say they are comparable but giving this to Cell mainly because of better techniques and intelligence. You can push it and say Broly is around Majin Vegeta or Good Buu but anything more than that is absolute wanking. SSJ3 Goku one shots Broly with his pinky.
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So how could you be incline to agree that Broly is Majin Vegeta to goodness fricken Fat Buu tier but have him comparable weaker than or equal to SPC XD THE SCALING MAKES NO SENSE!Omegas03 said:
Even if we say Gohan did not increase in strength via his continual training he would still be comparable to his Cell Saga self and thus >= SPC.
That same Gohan had this happen to him...........
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I said that you could push him to that level, not that I necessarily agree with it.
And nooope, M10 Gohan should be the same as Buu Arc Gohan who's far inferior to CG Gohan.
Gohan said he had trained since Movie 8 aka when Broly first appeared, not Cell Games. Big difference considering that by his appeareance and feats M8 Gohan didn't seem to finish his HTC training.
And nooope, M10 Gohan should be the same as Buu Arc Gohan who's far inferior to CG Gohan.
Gohan said he had trained since Movie 8 aka when Broly first appeared, not Cell Games. Big difference considering that by his appeareance and feats M8 Gohan didn't seem to finish his HTC training.
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Didn't M10 imply he had trained all 7 years though?
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Trying to mix anime lore and the movie timelines doesn't work, especially if we take what Daizenshuu 6 says about them. According to Daiz 6, the Cooler movies and Broly movies are "canon" to the main timeline. It's stated in Daiz 6 that Meta Cooler occurred during the 10 day wait for the Cell games, going by that statement Meta Cooler is already comparable with Perfect Cell since that statement indicates that is Mssj Goku and Post rosat 2 Vegeta. The director stated every movie villain>previous until Broly, meaning Super 13 is far above Perfect Cell as well.
Using this scaling M8 Broly desecrates Percect Cell.
One thing to add is Daizenshuu 7 states super saiyan Broly already is stronger than super saiyan Goku during the Buu saga. Add his Lssj multiplier on top of his super saiyan form and Lssj Broly is most likely super saiyan 2 Buu saga tiers of strength at minimum.
Using this scaling M8 Broly desecrates Percect Cell.
One thing to add is Daizenshuu 7 states super saiyan Broly already is stronger than super saiyan Goku during the Buu saga. Add his Lssj multiplier on top of his super saiyan form and Lssj Broly is most likely super saiyan 2 Buu saga tiers of strength at minimum.
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M8 Broly crushes Cell
M10 one-shots him
M10 one-shots him
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Head canon and assumptions[B]Omegas03 said:
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I would actually unironically argue Base Buu Saga Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Perfect Cell.
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In the anime there is actually a huge argument that could be made.XSOULOFCINDERX said:
For one Vegeta stated that he could beat everyone in the Tournament without the use of SSJ, that includes a Piccolo that had been training for the 7 years, who could hold his own against Cell Jrs 7yrs prior.
Base Vegeta even fought Dabura briefly in the anime
Vegeta was extremely frustrated that Gohan was not putting down Dabura as if Dabura was child's play.
of course these arguments are made if you believe Dabura was comparable to P. Cell and not SP. Cell.
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Didn't SSJ2 Boo Arc Gohan (who's Toei version would be equal to his M10 counterpart) fight evenly with Dabra who's equal to Cell? Because if Boo Arc SSJ2 Gohan ~ Super Perfect Cell, then I'd give M10 Broli the slight advantage here, unless Cell somehow uses/lands the Genkidama or (once again) grows stronger through a Zenkai Boost
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No, M10 Gohan isn't Buu Saga Gohan. They are completely different.
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Also, M10 SSJ Broly went from being on par with Base Gohan to stomping SSJ2 Gohan as a LSSJ right after transforming.
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Movie 6 taking place in the 10 day gap would contradict Gohan not being able to transform into SSJ and having his pre RoSaT design. Koyama stated [Here[1]] that movies will "not progress into story settings further ahead than the TV anime at the time of its premiere" and the TV Anime at the time of Movie 6's premiere was at the point where the Z Fighters were on the hunt for Dr. Gero and Trunks returned to the past. Though he does mess this up with Dende has assumed the role of God in Movie 6 which is why Daizenshuu 6 gave it a later time placement. Also, where does Daizenshuu 7 state Broli > SSJ1 Boo Arc Goku? Not disagreeing with that stance or anything (as long as it's in reference to M10 Broli) but still.TheMerchant66 said:
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Ehh, I mean he does say that he's supposed to have powered up since back then, but that's it. Nothing really about him training, the statement could easily just refer to M10 Gohan now having SSJ2 up his sleeve, hence he's "powered up" since M8.XSOULOFCINDERX said:
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So, The arguement is, is Broly strong enough to turn Cell into Dust? He was fighting someone basically on SSJ2 KID GOHAN LEVEL, and he was WINNING.
