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Goku never witnessed a serious Beerus. At this point taking his statement to measure Beerus's strength is pointless. Also it's simply disingenuous to to say that UI is not a humongous power boost compared to UIOLightinAnt said:Your opinion literally doesn't matter since nowhere was it stated that Jiren is above Beerus, other than 1 single promo magazine. The fact that you call me a troll and that you don't realise how powerscaling works is also another plus for me
You're right. I am. Because honestly, almost really doesn't count here. Whis was super chill and casual about it, and him even saying "that was a close one" sounded playful and sarcastic, which he always does.WIll Aureolin said:I do know some of you will try to use the "almost" against me
Except we don't see angels fighting that much in Dragon Ball Super, and even impressive to see someone try to hit them. Whis is the only one who Broly targeted that got out unscathed. That certainly speaks volumes about how strong and how much of a threat he was in the movie.MeleeniumRXJ said:You're right. I am. Because honestly, almost really doesn't count here. Whis was super chill and casual about it, and him even saying "that was a close one" sounded playful and sarcastic, which he always does.WIll Aureolin said:I do know some of you will try to use the "almost" against me
Goku biting Whis is more impressive.
WIll Aureolin said:That certainly speaks volumes about how strong and how much of a threat he was in the movie.
MeleeniumRXJ said:It really doesn't, considering we saw the same type of thing plenty of times as far back as the RoF arc when Whis was training Goku and Vegeta. There were plenty of "almost" moments. Again, Goku managed to bite Whis and actually cause pain.WIll Aureolin said:That certainly speaks volumes about how strong and how much of a threat he was in the movie.
I seriously am not following your logic here. How is Broly encountering an opponent he couldn't do anything to, show how strong Broly is? All it did was further emphasis how immensely powerful the angels are, which the series has been doing regularly.WIll Aureolin said:With Whis being the only one unscathed, it certainly shows how strong Broly is.
Alright, let's start simple here so you can follow along. In his Legendary Super Saiyan form, what were Vegeta, Goku, and Frieza able to do to Broly?MeleeniumRXJ said:I seriously am not following your logic here. How is Broly encountering an opponent he couldn't do anything to, show how strong Broly is? All it did was further emphasis how immensely powerful the angels are, which the series has been doing regularly.WIll Aureolin said:With Whis being the only one unscathed, it certainly shows how strong Broly is.
Vegeta and Goku were able to stand up to him to a degree as SSB but ultimately retreated (never used Beyond, or Kaioken, or more importantly, Ultra Instinct). Frieza, as far as I can tell, was unable to do anything offensively, but managed to survive for like an hour+ (to think, this is longer than the entire ToP). I still don't know what any of this has to do with Whis being an indication of how strong Broly is.WIll Aureolin said:Alright, let's start simple here so you can follow along. In his Legendary Super Saiyan form, what were Vegeta, Goku, and Frieza able to do to Broly?
Goku stated that he couldn't go Ultra Instinct after the Tournament of Power.MeleeniumRXJ said:(never used Beyond, or Kaioken, or more importantly, Ultra Instinct)
The reason why is irrelevant. The point is, he didn't do it.WIll Aureolin said:Goku stated that he couldn't go Ultra Instinct after the Tournament of Power.
Cause he didn't fight Broly in Blue for long. And the reason why is very relevant. Toriyama just didn't want to use Kaioken and Beyond.MeleeniumRXJ said:The reason why is irrelevant. The point is, he didn't do it.WIll Aureolin said:Goku stated that he couldn't go Ultra Instinct after the Tournament of Power.
We at least know Jiren has fought against MUI, while Broly hasn't.
That's nonsense. Whis would toy with everyone regardless if it's Broly, Jiren or Gogeta. Also beating up an injured Jiren is no big feat. You're clearly cherry picking here. What about the time when Jiren knocked out golden Frieza with one punch?WIll Aureolin said:In the Broly movie, Broly almost landed a punch on Whis. Since Whis trains Beerus, Vegeta, and Goku; would that not place Broly at a higher advatage to win?
None of them fought Limit Breaker Jiren either. They'd get one shotted if they didWIll Aureolin said:Alright, let's start simple here so you can follow along. In his Legendary Super Saiyan form, what were Vegeta, Goku, and Frieza able to do to Broly?
Yeah, this is part of the issue, here. This fight is so ludicrously subjective that I'm not quite sure where one would even get such confidence to state things one way or another.ZERO7772 said:This fight could go either way depending on what approach you want to take, feats, narrative, promo material etc...