Breaking Bad/BCS General Discussion Thread

[Lonkitt]

walt shrugged off closer proximity to the same explosion which knocked tuco to the ground

No way you’re unironically arguing for scaling to the fulminated mercury explosion

This is wank in its purest form. I want you to consider a few things:
A. Why would Walter use this intimidation method if it was going to harm him?
B. Tuco was thrown off, but he wasn’t hurt. Again, that was the intention from Walt. Intimidation, not harming
C. Do you think the intention of the scene was to “Wow! Walter’s so strong, he just shrugged that shit off like it was nothing!”. Really think about this one
D. Why would it make sense for Walt to scale to this when he gets hurt by shit FAR less durable on a daily basis?
E. Walter was prepared for what was about to happen while Tuco was not

I have never seen someone try to glaze Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul this much. No. There is no one who can scale to the fulminated mercury explosion, and you certainly can’t use it for scaling to other guys because “Tuco was knocked over”

Please get real

 

[Lonkitt]

he was able to resist burning the skin off his wrist with a wire hot enough to melt nylon which is 220 degrees celcius

Cool

Not 9-C though

Also he didn’t resist shit. That ended up burning him. You also seem to be ignoring a lot of context and hot hear functions in general

 

[Lonkitt]

Like how are you going from "Walt's still 9-C, he just downscales Tuco" to "Walt shrugged off something that knocked over Tuco"

You're just looking for excuses to glaze up Walter and the other 10-A cast at this point, even though all the evidence you're bringing up is incredibly faulty

 

[Lonkitt]

The Lindholm Brothers Vs Jimmy McGill's Car

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I made a calc for the Breaking Bad verse that can let us put numbers on characters like Mike & Tuco if it gets accepted and maybe even get them up to Wall level

Before anyone brings this up, the calc's been rejected. Look in the comments

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Cool

Not 9-C though

Also he didn’t resist shit. That ended up burning him. You also seem to be ignoring a lot of context and hot hear functions in general

holding 220C against your wrist for several seconds is not something an average human could do, walter just had to pour water on it afterwards and then was fine lol he should've had very severe burns

Like how are you going from "Walt's still 9-C, he just downscales Tuco" to "Walt shrugged off something that knocked over Tuco"

You're just looking for excuses to glaze up Walter and the other 10-A cast at this point, even though all the evidence you're bringing up is incredibly faulty

as you mention, walter was prepared for the explosion while tuco was not, plus he had a nosebleed afterwards. walter downscaling wouldnt be inconsistent

 

[Lonkitt]

holding 220C against your wrist for several seconds is not something an average human could do, walter just had to pour water on it afterwards and then was fine lol he should've had very severe burns

Cool

Still not 9-C. That's not how AP/Durability stuff involving heat goes on the wiki

as you mention, walter was prepared for the explosion while tuco was not. walter downscaling wouldnt be inconsistent

That's not how that shit works, oh my God

Again, you seem to just be ignoring my other points and instead choose the one that can ""best fit"" your narrative of Walter being some strong ass guy who's 9-C or higher

No, what I brought up was NOT in support of 9-C. It was very clearly against it and I explained that

The fulminated mercury explosion CANNOT be used for any kind of physical scaling. Period

 

[BigSmoke4269]

im ignoring the yield of the explosion being an outlier because it’s irrelevant, i am scaling walter to tuco, not to the explosion or its calc

 

[Lonkitt]

im ignoring the yield of the explosion being an outlier because it’s irrelevant, i am not scaling walter to the explosion or its calc

Yeah, I still said "any kind of physical scaling"

You can't say the shockwave or whatever "scales" to Tuco's 9-C dawg, that ain't how shit goes here

 

[BigSmoke4269]

i think it makes good sense

 

[Lonkitt]

i think it makes good sense

You're thinking wrong then, because that's not how we do scaling here

If you bring that to a revision, you're gonna get shut down HARD, and rightfully so

 

[BigSmoke4269]

since im leaving vsbw i dont care very much if the wiki rules or whatever are opposed to my opinion

 

[HorrorHistory]

Lonkitt is NOT having it today

 

[Lonkitt]

Lonkitt is NOT having it today

Again, I love Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. Absolutely PHENOMENAL shows. But people REALLY overplay how combatively capable Walter, Jesse, and Saul are. They're fodder, even in their own verse

 

[HorrorHistory]

I do think Jesse and Walter should be Above Average in lifting strength. Their feats would definitely warrant it by standards and also scaling from other characters like Todd who are listed as Above Average Human

 

[Lonkitt]

I do think Jesse and Walter should be Above Average in lifting strength. Their feats would definitely warrant it by standards and also scaling from other characters like Todd who are listed as Above Average Human

Todd has no feats justifying Above Average LS, so that’s not enough to justify scaling. If anything, Todd should be downgraded. His page’s “”justifications”” for 10-A are terrible. He should be 10-B if anything, he was totally overpowered by Jesse

Walt and Jesse’s feats don’t warrant anything above Average LS. Jesse took awhile to break Todd’s neck and Walter’s hasn’t done anything a normal human can’t in terms of lifting

 

[HorrorHistory]

Walt and Jesse’s feats don’t warrant anything above Average LS. Jesse took awhile to break Todd’s neck and Walter’s hasn’t done anything a normal human can’t in terms of lifting

I mean, Walter can overpower and drag around Jesse even while handcuffed or weakened by his cancer. He should also scale to Saul, who pulled a man on a platform with one arm. I think these feats might be good enough for a justification of Above Average Human, and I’ve seen many profiles that have characters at Above Average Human for doing things like overpowering/throwing people while weakened, wrestling down people with ease, or even just overpowering people extremely easily. Even Gus is scaled to Above Average Human for overpowering and restraining people.

 

[Lonkitt]

I mean, Walter can overpower and drag around Jesse even while handcuffed or weakened by his cancer.

1. All he did was push back Jesse while handcuffed. Jesse was off guard. He didn't overpower him there. The fact that this is on the profile is wank TBH
2. Normally dragging the weight of an average person while weakened from lung cancer doesn't mean you're Above Average in LS

No dice

He should also scale to Saul, who pulled a man on a platform with one arm.

Normal humans can do this

I think these feats might be good enough for a justification of Above Average Human, and I’ve seen many profiles that have characters at Above Average Human for doing things like overpowering/throwing people while weakened, wrestling down people with ease, or even just overpowering people extremely easily.

Except many of those cases are people actually being tossed decent distances away or for overpowering people with ACTUAL Above Average Human feats

Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul doesn't have those. These feats are normal as hell

Even Gus is scaled to Above Average Human for overpowering and restraining people.

Again. This is another case of a guy having a rating he shouldn't have. This is like Todd all over again, these feats aren't anything above the normal human being


None of these are good cases for an upgrade. You know that practically any normal human can perform the feats you listed, right?

 

[HorrorHistory]

1. All he did was push back Jesse while handcuffed. Jesse was off guard. He didn't overpower him there. The fact that this is on the profile is wank TBH
2. Normally dragging the weight of an average person while weakened from lung cancer doesn't mean you're Above Average in LS

No dice



Normal humans can do this



Except many of those cases are people actually being tossed decent distances away or for overpowering people with ACTUAL Above Average Human feats

Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul doesn't have those. These feats are normal as hell



Again. This is another case of a guy having a rating he shouldn't have. This is like Todd all over again, these feats aren't anything above the normal human being


None of these are good cases for an upgrade. You know that practically any normal human can perform the feats you listed, right?

Hmm, fair I guess

 

[BigSmoke4269]

jesse was highly weakened when he snapped todd’s neck as he had been malnourished, severely beaten, tortured, etc

 

[Lonkitt]

jesse was highly weakened when he snapped todd’s neck as he had been malnourished, severely beaten, tortured, etc

And Todd is absolutely featless. Along with that, the context of Jesse killing him still wouldn’t make him 9-C because it took a LONG ASS TIME for him to do it. Doesn’t matter if he’s weakened


Next

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

jesse was highly weakened when he snapped todd’s neck as he had been malnourished, severely beaten, tortured, etc

I always assumed that sound was Jesse crushing Todd's windpipe, not him snapping his neck. The crunch sounds to squishy for it to be bone imo

Plus it took Jesse almost a minute straight to do it, and strangling people to death like this isn't something regular humans can't do

 

[Lonkitt]

I always assumed that sound was Jesse crushing Todd's windpipe, not him snapping his neck. The crunch sounds to squishy for it to be bone imo

Plus it took Jesse almost a minute straight to do it, and strangling people to death like this isn't something regular humans can't do

Pretty much this

If it was a true neck snap and Jesse did it in like two seconds then we'd have an actual feat here....but he just....did something any other human could do and it took him a damn long time

9-C Walt and Jesse ain't happenin'

 

[Employe]

Honestly, about Todd I think you probably can argue 10-A and Above Average LS, since he has overpowered and suffocated Sonnya with his belt, but that's all

 

[Employe]

And yes, Todd scaling to Jesse totally doesn't make sense and should be removed

 

[Lonkitt]

Honestly, about Todd I think you probably can argue 10-A and Above Average LS, since he has overpowered and suffocated Sonnya with his belt, but that's all

That's literally just a 10-B and Average Human LS feat. Sonnya was an average human, nothing about the context of the feat bumps it to 10-A

 

[Employe]

I always assumed that sound was Jesse crushing Todd's windpipe, not him snapping his neck. The crunch sounds to squishy for it to be bone imo

Plus it took Jesse almost a minute straight to do it, and strangling people to death like this isn't something regular humans can't do

That's literally just a 10-B and Average Human LS feat. Sonnya was an average human, nothing about the context of the feat bumps it to 10-A

I thought overpowering average people puts you to 10-A?

 

[HorrorHistory]

I thought overpowering average people puts you to 10-A?

… Well, no. Any normal 10-B person can overpower another 10-B person, it doesn’t make them 10-A suddenly.

 

[Employe]

Fair, I guess. T

 

[Lonkitt]

I thought overpowering average people puts you to 10-A?

No

 

[Employe]

Then Todd should be downgraded to 10-B. I also want to decrease his intelligence rating and improve wording and justifications on his page

 

[Vzearr]

Cocaine Vs Meth! Franklin Saint Versus Walter White

Franklin Saint Walter White Franklin finds out Walter killed his girlfriend and unborn child, Walter did this because Skyler was caught in the gunfire of a hit from one of Franklins underlings. Both are bloodlusted and want to kill each other, Walter has access to everything and Franklin has...

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[Vzearr]

Dexter Morgan Vs Walter White

Dexter Walter Dexter knows that Walter is Heisenberg, and takes it upon himself to hunt him down. Walter is told a serial killer is hunting him down and is told as soon as Dexter knows Walter has to be on his table. SBA otherwise.

vsbattles.com

 

[Kaydee1648]

Didn’t even know this thread exists
i’m a big fan of bb and bcs

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Whatever happened to the 9-C Lalo Calc? The one where he tanked falling

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Whatever happened to the 9-C Lalo Calc? The one where he tanked falling

I think dude got banned and all his calcs are not to be used