- 4,163
- 2,768
Does Sam start with Blade Mode?
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
brazilians can double jump (Luffy vs jetscream sam)
- Thread starter Spinoirr
- Start date
- 4,716
- 4,209
By all means give examples
Your arguing that a sword user would not use slash attacks
This is not a hill you want to die on
No
- 4,163
- 2,768
Okay. Then Luffy has time to throw hands before being turned to sashimi? If Sam suddenly speeds up mid way through, Luffy can probably use G2 to even the odds.
- 42,571
- 36,862
Kuro (One Piece)
Kuro, also known as "Kuro of the Thousand Plans", is the captain of the Black Cat pirates from East Blue and is one of the first villains to appear in One Piece. He is cold and cunning, known for coming up with elaborate plans that never failed. His fighting skills allow him to move silently at...
vsbattles.fandom.com
I'm not, you're saying every kind of sword attack is a slash or slice, they ain't, especially in something like an Arming Sword, but in the case of a Katana(like with Zoro and Sam), it does happen a bit more often but and big attack is generally the same effect as say your average Medieval broadsword, IE piercing or blunt, depending on the durability of the object
- 4,716
- 4,209
You are arguing that Swords are blunt attacks I just want you to know thisKuro (One Piece)
Kuro, also known as "Kuro of the Thousand Plans", is the captain of the Black Cat pirates from East Blue and is one of the first villains to appear in One Piece. He is cold and cunning, known for coming up with elaborate plans that never failed. His fighting skills allow him to move silently at...
I'm not, you're saying every kind of sword attack is a slash or slice, they ain't, especially in something like an Arming Sword, but in the case of a Katana(like with Zoro and Sam), it does happen a bit more often but and big attack is generally the same effect as say your average Medieval broadsword, IE piercing or blunt, depending on the durability of the object
What in your mind is a slicing attacks then?
- 4,716
- 4,209
Yeah it'd be equal until then
However I don't know how much the gears would help considering blade mode is a canon 10x increase to speed
- 4,163
- 2,768
G2 Could easily be 10x.
XSOULOFCINDERX
They/Them- 21,300
- 8,982
Could or is?
- 42,571
- 36,862
Piercing is also blunt technically for Luffy, for instance you can't stab the man with an arming sword lol
What is a slice by definition with a blade?
In the case of a sword, a draw cut or using the very tip of the blade, sharpness is derived from all aspects however, so if you can hack a pig carcass in one go, you have a lot of piercing damage, if you swung a claymore at luffy it'd bounce off, if you stabbed Luffy with that claymore it'd bounce off, if you managed to sweet spot with the tip of the claymore with luffy it'd start cutting, as that is a slice, if you managed to get a draw cut that's also a slice.
Determine what is a slice and what isn't by the curvature of the blade and how much the blade is moving against the opponent compared to the first impact or what edge of the blade is being used, as I said, the tip is a slice if you sweet spot it.
- 42,571
- 36,862
Now does any of this sword stuff really matter in regards to Sam? Not really, it's a quantum-level cutter and Luffy ain't got shit on that, so Sam could literally stab luffy and it'd work like a hot knife through butter
- 4,716
- 4,209
Why bother writing all this if your going to agree with me anyways?
- 42,571
- 36,862
How high are you?
We were arguing about what kind of damage are swords in regards to luffy to find out if by principal he would clash with Sam or dodge, I was clarifying none of this matters in regards to what Sam can do
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,753
- 15,158
So what the **** are Luffy's wincons if he's done in one hit?
- 4,716
- 4,209
Buddy YOU are the one arguing that a ******* SWORD does not cause slicing damage
By your shit definition everything except a sawing motion would be blunt damage which is dumb and I really don't need to explain why
- 42,571
- 36,862
Good question
- 42,571
- 36,862
I have a question for you, if you're, theoretically, swinging a Scottish Claymore and it goes all the way through what you swing it at, what kind of damage is that? Piercing(blunt in luffy's case) or Slicing?
I'm going to let you answer that but keep in mind, I also said that it depends on how much the blade moves post-impact for a slice, even if it's just an inch that's a nice slice
- 4,716
- 4,209
I guess activating Gear 2 or 3 and hitting Sam before he can activate blade mode
- 4,716
- 4,209
By definition it is a slice, that is really all I need to say
What we define as slices and blunt attacks all have to do with the surface area of what we are attacking with, in this case any attacks with a sword would be either piercing or slicing which Luffy has shown to be weak to
- 42,571
- 36,862
Okay is it moving even a centimeter? That's a slice, by definition.
If you want to say that simply cutting through, say, a pineapple like butter is a slice instead of just pure piercing damage at work, then you clearly aren't qualified to have this kind of debate with the resident sword ******
- 4,163
- 2,768
The method to Soru is kicking off the ground 10 times. Luffy's G2 blitzed Blueno who kept up with him in base.
- 4,716
- 4,209
Clearly you aren't ready to have this kind of debate if you don't even know what the definition of a slice is
"cut (something, especially food) into slices."- Oxford Dictionary
"to easily cut into or through something with a sharp knife"- Cambridge Dictionary
"to move with a cutting action" - Merriam Webster.. OH NO
You got me!!! Except looking at the definition of cut"make an opening, incision, or wound in (something) with a sharp-edged tool or object." - Oxford Dictionary
"divide into pieces with a knife or other sharp implement." - Oxford Dictionary
"to divide into parts with an edged tool" - Merriam Webster
"the act or an instance of cutting: such as" GET THIS "a stroke or blow with the edge of a knife or other edged tool" - Merriam Webster
"to use a sharp tool such as a knife to break the surface of something, divide something, or make something smaller" - Cambridge
You saying a sword doesn't cut literally goes against the definition of the word
PLEASE don't act like your the smart one in this debate
- 42,571
- 36,862
That's a lot of dictionariesClearly you aren't ready to have this kind of debate if you don't even know what the definition of a slice is
"cut (something, especially food) into slices."- Oxford Dictionary
"to easily cut into or through something with a sharp knife"- Cambridge Dictionary
"to move with a cutting action" - Merriam Webster.. OH NO
"make an opening, incision, or wound in (something) with a sharp-edged tool or object." - Oxford Dictionary
"divide into pieces with a knife or other sharp implement." - Oxford Dictionary
"to divide into parts with an edged tool" - Merriam Webster
"the act or an instance of cutting: such as" GET THIS "a stroke or blow with the edge of a knife or other edged tool" - Merriam Webster
"to use a sharp tool such as a knife to break the surface of something, divide something, or make something smaller" - Cambridge
You saying a sword doesn't cut literally goes against the definition of the word
PLEASE don't act like your the smart one in this debate
- 1,880
- 844
Quick Draw>Nano-Machines=blitzed Raiden's 10x speed amp.
This happens
This happens
- 4,716
- 4,209
Can anyone give an estimate on how much faster Gear Second is?
Based on my memory it allows blitzing of similar strength characters
Based on my memory it allows blitzing of similar strength characters
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,753
- 15,158
Blueno can't perceive him
He can hit Lucci multiple times at once with Jet Gatling
etc.
- 42,571
- 36,862
Basically Sam laidos him
- 1,880
- 844
I'ts a sam W or Luffy ***** off Reaper.If he sees getting himself cutted in half he is not gonna fight him.
- 42,571
- 36,862
Unfortunately Pre-Timeskip luffy doesn't have that kinda haki
Which basically, means he rushes Sam and gets bisected, lengthwise.
- 4,716
- 4,209
Okay finding the exact value One Piece Characters scale to is aids but here is what each character scales to
Sam - 65 Megatons
Luffy - 21 Megatons in base, 217 Megatons in Gear 2nd, and 434 Megatons in Gear 3rd
Basically Luffy can One-shot if he lands a gear 3rd hit
That's if he doesnt get bisected the second he attempts this
Sam - 65 Megatons
Luffy - 21 Megatons in base, 217 Megatons in Gear 2nd, and 434 Megatons in Gear 3rd
Basically Luffy can One-shot if he lands a gear 3rd hit
- 42,571
- 36,862
Basically, Luffy can win, it's just Sam has a much better chance
Laido gg FRA
Laido gg FRA
- 6,627
- 6,811
Luffy is slower in Gear 3rd than he is in base form and is a bigger target (or at least his inflated limbs are), so Sam would have an easier time just cutting him up.
Luffy's basically screwed this match.
Luffy's basically screwed this match.
- 4,716
- 4,209
Luffy could win but it'd take a miracle
He'd have to use Gear 2nd off the bat and blitz Sam before he could activate blade mode which is not in character
Sam FRA
He'd have to use Gear 2nd off the bat and blitz Sam before he could activate blade mode which is not in character
Sam FRA
- 6,627
- 6,811
- 42,571
- 36,862
Sam is the coolest dude tho
- 6,627
- 6,811
True
- 6,627
- 6,811
Actually HF Blades are cool, they just tend to make matches kinda lame.
- 1,464
- 1,276
Nah I think it's funny watching Raiden dice up a 5-B
- 4,716
- 4,209
Senator is the coolest dude because he can actually be used in matches
DaMonkeMan
He/Him- 17,753
- 15,158
Similar threads
